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Re: rented a Mercury Milan [colloquor]
by jeffyscott
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Mar 19, 2008 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: colloquor (Mar 18, 2008 4:35 pm)
I beleive until recently the VW Passat did not have a transverse engine either. So, as your post implies, there is no requirement to have transverse mounting just because a car is FWD.
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- #9162 of 13235
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Re: rented a Mercury Milan [jeffyscott]
by busiris
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Mar 19, 2008 (1:39 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Mar 19, 2008 1:32 pm)
Don't know about the VW, but the Oldsmobile Toronado, Chrysler Concorde, 300, etc. all had perpendicular engine/transmission configurations. The transverse configuration is usually used in smaller vehicles due to limited space, and probably a bit more cost effective.
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Re: rented a Mercury Milan [jeffyscott]
by elroy5
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Mar 19, 2008 (1:44 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Mar 19, 2008 1:32 pm)
Transverse mounting is not required to have FWD, but it happens to be how most midsize sedans are designed. A V6 engine works better than an inline 6 in these designs (shorter is better). Room under the hood is less a problem now than it ever was. There are V6 engines that make the same hp as V8 engines of 10 years ago. I think that's why hoods keep getting shorter and shorter.
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- #9164 of 13235
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Re: rented a Mercury Milan [elroy5]
by jeffyscott
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Mar 19, 2008 (1:48 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Mar 19, 2008 1:44 pm)
I don't think the suggestion was that an in-line 6 should be used instead of a V6, it was that the 4 cylinder is less crammed in than the V6. Like the other poster, I also prefer a 4 cyl in part because it is not so jammed in.
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Re: 09 Mazda6 [maxamillion1]
by aviboy97
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Mar 19, 2008 (2:11 pm)
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Replying to: maxamillion1 (Mar 19, 2008 11:52 am)
Nope. That's unfortunate, because I will be there on Friday. The first public view, meaning non-MNAO employees, will be April 25th at the dealer meetings in Denver, CO.
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V6 vs I4 maintenance
by elroy5
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Mar 19, 2008 (3:04 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Mar 19, 2008 1:48 pm)
I don't think the suggestion was that an in-line 6 should be used instead of a V6, it was that the 4 cylinder is less crammed in than the V6. Like the other poster, I also prefer a 4 cyl in part because it is not so jammed in.
It hasn't been a problem at this point, and I do my own maintenance. I don't think changing the oil, or air filter are any easier on the 4cylinder. I don't know where the oil filter is on the new 4cylinder, but on my V6 I can get to it without getting under the car. Changing the oil filter on my old 4cylinder Accord used to be a lot more difficult. I think the V6 is well worth any extra effort needed to perform the maintenance.
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Re: V6 vs I4 maintenance [elroy5]
by karsick
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Mar 19, 2008 (3:55 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Mar 19, 2008 3:04 pm)
I'm the one who bought up the 6cyl argument, but a careful reader would have seen I was suggesting a VR6 (for lack of a better term).
Anyone unfamilar with this term needs to look up "VR6" to see how VW made a 6cyl as compact as many 4cyls.
Sorry for any confusion 
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Re: V6 vs I4 maintenance [karsick]
by busiris
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Mar 19, 2008 (5:20 pm)
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Replying to: karsick (Mar 19, 2008 3:55 pm)
I see where VW also uses an inline 5 cylinder in the Beetle and Jetta...How does that engine compare to the VR6?
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- #9169 of 13235
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Re: V6 vs I4 maintenance [busiris]
by karsick
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Mar 19, 2008 (5:46 pm)
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Replying to: busiris (Mar 19, 2008 5:20 pm)
It gets mighty confusing 
The US VW 5cyl is strictly an inline 5, like the 80's Audi 5000.
However, VW also sold a VR5 in europe in the late 90's, basically a VR6 minus one cylinder.
The VR5 sounds sweet, like a cross between a 350z and an Audi quattro rally car 
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Re: rented a Mercury Milan [busiris]
by akirby
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Mar 19, 2008 (7:38 pm)
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Replying to: busiris (Mar 19, 2008 1:39 pm)
Audi has been (and still is) using longitudinal engines with FWD.
In fact, someone claimed that Audis had to be RWD, and posted a picture of the engine compartment as proof. He was laughed off the forum.
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