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Re: rented a Mercury Milan [karsick]
by elroy5
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Mar 18, 2008 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: karsick (Mar 18, 2008 12:28 pm)
One of my main objections to transverse V's is how crammed they are into a modern engine bay, with the increased costs for servicing that layout creates.
The secretary at work has a BMW, with an Inline/straight 6. The engine is so long, you would have hard time mounting that engine + a transmission in a FWD car (sideways). A V6 is wider, but shorter, which works out great for FWD.
Imagine a 200hp, 2.6 liter "VR6" in your Camcordtimafulant6.
That would be a very small hp advantage over a regular 4 cylinder. So why bother?
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Re: rented a Mercury Milan [elroy5]
by karsick
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Mar 18, 2008 (3:09 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Mar 18, 2008 2:07 pm)
Why bother?
To achieve a unique sound, refinement & selling point.
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- #9150 of 13336
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Re: rented a Mercury Milan [karsick]
by elroy5
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Mar 18, 2008 (3:45 pm)
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Replying to: karsick (Mar 18, 2008 3:09 pm)
Personally, when I am driving down the road at a steady speed, I would rather not hear the exhaust. I would rather hear the music at that time. The only time I want to hear the engine, is when I ask it to speak up (accelerator down). A constant exhaust drone, is not something I'm particularly fond of. The right dual exhaust, on the right V8 engine sounds great to me, up to a point. But after a while, it gets annoying. The radio has to be full blast all the time, and you can't hold a decent conversation without yelling. But that's just my take on it.
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Re: rented a Mercury Milan [elroy5]
by colloquor
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Mar 18, 2008 (4:35 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Mar 18, 2008 2:07 pm)
One of the first and pioneering FWD production cars (SAAB) never used a transverse engine design until the Fiat/Lancia/SAAB consortium-designed 9000 or until GM's influence was felt a bit later with the Opel V6 transverse installation. SAABs always had longitudinal Inline 3's or Inline 4's. You want to see a large SOHC or DOHC 2.0L inline 4, take a look under the hood of any Classic 900. With the engine sitting on top of the transaxle - that's one big engine and transaxle assembly.
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32.2mpg on Mazda6 I4 auto
by m6user
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Mar 18, 2008 (5:30 pm)
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Just returned from Minneapolis to Chicago area and mpg was 32.2 with a little bit of stop and go on each end of a 380 mile drive so I would say 97hwy/3city. The 2008 EPA on this engine I believe is something like 28 or 29 mpg hwy. I drove about 74 most of the way on cruise.
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Re: 32.2mpg on Mazda6 I4 auto [m6user]
by aviboy97
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Mar 18, 2008 (6:05 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (Mar 18, 2008 5:30 pm)
Yeah, I have heard numerous people saying they get better then the new EPA's on the Mazda's. I have a 2005 Mazda6 i 5-speed, rated 23-31, and on my last long distance trip to upstate New York from here in CT, I got 32 mpg's going mostly 80mph.
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Re: 32.2mpg on Mazda6 I4 auto [aviboy97]
by m6user
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Mar 18, 2008 (8:33 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Mar 18, 2008 6:05 pm)
Mines an '07 auto. It's about 1 or 2 mpg better than the 07 EPA estimate. I wasn't babying it or anything. I would assume that driving say 60 or 65 for a long trip could result in 33-34 mpg possibly. I'd like to see but I don't think I have the patience for it.
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Re: rented a Mercury Milan [thegraduate]
by targettuning
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Mar 19, 2008 (5:21 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 18, 2008 9:38 am)
Yeah but I don't and will never have a fully functioning engine in my living room. I guess insulation has something to do with it but why then is the Honda loud at idle, average at full throttle but falls back to be among the quietest at 70 mph cruise? Insulation, or the lack thereof,can only be blamed so much. It just has a noisy engine (relatively speaking) at idle and if so then that diminshes the perception of refinement to me. Speaking of engine refinement, and I have asked this question before, exactly what defines that? In my experiences most new car engines idle quietly and smoothly, provide ample power and fade into the backround when cruising. Calling the engine room for passing power prompts a downshift and the engine revs... OK I get that but again most modern engines provide power and rev briefly to the upper RPM range without too much drama What more should it do? I think this refinement thing is too overrated. A smooth and quiet idle is the most noticeable sign of refinement to me, maybe quiet acceleration too.
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Re: 32.2mpg on Mazda6 I4 auto [m6user]
by aviboy97
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Mar 19, 2008 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: m6user (Mar 18, 2008 8:33 pm)
Well, since fuel prices are going up, up, and up, I have tried to keep it around 65mph for my commute to work, which is only 7 miles, mostly highway. I can last over 2 weeks on a tank if I don't venture out and go long distances.
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09 Mazda6
by maxamillion1
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Mar 19, 2008 (11:52 am)
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Anyone know if it will be at New York????
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