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13226 messages, Last post on Nov 26, 2009 at 8:15 AM
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Replying to: akirby (Mar 17, 2008 1:43 pm) |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 18, 2008 6:58 am)
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Replying to: busiris (Mar 17, 2008 2:29 pm) You see those knobs in the middle of the console, turn them. Mine are connected to a thing that says BOSE. There must be some music in the world that you like? 
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Replying to: kernick (Mar 18, 2008 9:07 am)
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Replying to: targettuning (Mar 18, 2008 7:45 am) No.  Put the most refined and quiet engine in your living room, and it will seem quite loud. It doesn't mean it is a loud engine relative to the competition, but rather that it is not insulated as much as its competition.
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Replying to: hackd (Mar 18, 2008 9:29 am) I thought the issue was engine-noise, and not road-noise. Road-noise I'd assume is due to the tires, suspension, thickness of glass, wind whistling over the mirrors. Engine noise would be the engine only. You can have 1 or the other or both, or neither. I have a 4-cyl car, the engine sounds fine and is very muted at the few times I've had the radio down. There's a nice turbo sound to it also. But I don't listen to the road or engine, I listen to the radio. And there isn't that much road or engine noise that I can't play and enjoy the radio moderately and still have a conversation. Now if you need to gun the 4-cyl to high revs, then yes you may have a noise issue. Try getting a more powerful 4-cyl then. I don't rev over 3,000 rpm and I have plenty of power. Shop for a car with a direct injection engine.
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Replying to: kernick (Mar 18, 2008 10:44 am) ). If I had the V6, I'd probably never end up over 4k RPM, meaning I'd have lower fuel economy than I get with my 4-cyl, yet would have more power than I need or want. Today's I4s are amazing to me. I returned from a trip to the gulf coast in my 2006 Accord (166hp), only to get back in my 1996 Accord (130hp) to drive to work on Monday. It felt SO SLOW relative to my new car! It's amazing what more transmission gears, iVTEC, and 10 years worth of improvements can do for an engine!
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 18, 2008 11:01 am) I've gone back to a manual after a few years of being with an auto. I just feel more in tune with the vehicle. Also there is less powertrain loss with the manual and it makes the car lighter (typically). I have a Mazdaspeed6, and am thoroughly happy the 2 weeks I've had it. It's just getting it's first tank of gas, and the fuel mileage is mid-20's in mixed driving. The 2.3 4-cyl purrs, the turbo has a nice sound when engaged, it has a Bose stereo (feel sorry for you if you can't always find something nice to listen to), and it'll seat four. And it's AWD with stability control. The Subaru Legacy GT would have been an option too, though I flinch at spending that sort of $. The Mazdaspeed had a $4000 rebate + standard discounts. |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 18, 2008 11:01 am) ... an engine narrow enough to use just one head, with all exhaust ports on one side & all intake on the other, but with staggered cylinders for compact length. One of my main objections to transverse V's is how crammed they are into a modern engine bay, with the increased costs for servicing that layout creates. Imagine a 200hp, 2.6 liter "VR6" in your Camcordtimafulant6.  ...if you've ever heard a Golf R32 accelerate past, you'll know what I'm saying. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc2x09OUzTE&feature=related BTW - I haven't owned any German cars in the past 7 yrs, so I'm not just a VW partisan  .
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Replying to: kernick (Mar 18, 2008 9:07 am) Seeing as how the 4 cylinder is a physically smaller unit, it would also have a corresponding larger "dead space" in the engine compartment. Logically, then, it would seem that, given the same amount of engine compartment insulation, and all other factore being equal, that the 4 cylinder would be quieter. I wonder if is has anything to do with the cylinder diameters..ie., are the cylinders a larger diameter in a 4 cylinder than the 6 cylinder? Or, is it the length of the piston stroke, which may have a larger combustion chamber in the 4 cylinder...Or, maybe a V-6 simply has a better internal insulating factor, which is inherent in a "V" design .vs. inline? Any ideas??? |
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