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13340 messages, Last post on Dec 06, 2009 at 10:12 PM
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We rented a 2007 Mercury Milan Premier edition this past week end. While I stayed home and worked Saturday my wife drove it on our weekly cross state visit to both her parents and my mother. She reported upon her return Sunday that she liked it and while this is hardly descriptive I had a chance to drive it around a bit on Friday before she left. It was an I-4 cylinder 5 speed (?) automatic. Like the Fusion we rented sometime last fall it drove and handled well and felt (at a hard 25K rental miles) solid with no rattles. I rather liked it (including the interior and exterior) better than the Fusion. Being the "Premier" level trim it was fancier with more extras than the Fusion but shared the same noisy on acceleration I-4. This is one thing that I hated about it even though upon reaching cruising speed it quieted down. Fuel economy was quite good as well with the trip computer showing 28.6 mpg overall including more mountainous driving than I normally do when I drive. I use the Pa Turnpike rather than U.S.Rt 30 that goes through the mountains but this is the route she took on her trip home. She did however, use the Turnpike on the trip up and reported a trip high of 30.4 mpg on that stretch. She never complained about the lack of power even on the mountains (I asked). We still lean heavily toward the 2009 Sonata but this car wasn't bad for a Mexican made Ford product.
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Replying to: targettuning (Mar 17, 2008 8:53 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Mar 17, 2008 9:03 am)
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Replying to: backy (Mar 17, 2008 1:17 pm)
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Replying to: targettuning (Mar 17, 2008 8:53 am)
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Replying to: busiris (Mar 17, 2008 2:29 pm)  D (Car Driver) magazine and the Apr 08 issue had a test of mainstream I-4 cylinder family sedans. As a part of the specification sheet is a "noise level" section recorded in db at idle at full throttle acceleration and at 70 mph cruise. Oddly enough the actual measured sound levels (in db) between a 2008 Honda Accord EX (190hp 2.4 liter I-4) and a 2008 Ford Fusion SEL (160 hp 2.3 liter I-4) shows the Fusion to be 1 db quieter idle (at 42 db)...tied with the Honda full throttle (at 73 db) and 1 db noisier (at 69 db verses 68 db) than the Honda at 70 mph cruise. Typically the Honda is thought to be a quiet car with the "most refined" I-4 in the industry but.... And although the 2009 Sonata is considerably quieter idle (38 db) than either it is actually 1 db noisier than the Fusion on full throttle (74 db verses 73 db) and tied with the Accord. Subjectively, after renting both Fusion/Milan I-4's and a 2007 Sonata I-4 I complained about the Fusion/Milan being noisy and praised the Sonata for being quiet. Maybe its the nature or quality of the "noise"? Who woulda guessed it??? I still feel like the Sonata is quieter in spite of the measured numbers and that the induction noise of the Fusion/Milan is annoying to me.
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Replying to: targettuning (Mar 17, 2008 8:53 am) |
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Replying to: targettuning (Mar 18, 2008 4:51 am) I think that is it. The Accord, and in fact Hondas in general, are noted for their tire/road noise. You see that comment all the time in reviews. But the engines are praised for being very smooth. So the 1 db extra noise at 70 mph cruise for the Fusion could be more engine noise than for the Accord, which could have a quieter engine and more road noise. And maybe people don't consider road noise as objectionable as engine noise. For me, it'a all noise. And I also found the Sonata (even the pre-2009 models) quieter overall than the Accord. The Camry is pretty hushed also. |
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Replying to: targettuning (Mar 18, 2008 4:51 am) BY WHO? HAHAHAHAHA I've heard Honda's road noise complaints on here for a long time! Honda has never been "the quiet car," that's the Camry, and it's Korean friend the Sonata (which has followed the Camry in noise and ride tuning). This has to do with the amount of sound insulation Honda uses in its cabins (which has always been less than many of its competitors). It doesn't mean the engines aren't refined; they are among the smoothest and most refined through the rev-range that I've found (never boomy, buzzy, or thrashy). Drive a Chevy Cobalt with the 2.2 Ecotec; that's NOT a refined engine.
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