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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#9063 of 20239 Re: Chevy Malibu LTZ V6 [thegraduate]
Mar 10, 2008 (8:35 am)
The Azera would be worth a close look, as its comparable to the Taurus in size and price (big discounts available now, especially on left-over 2007s) but maybe they would like its styling better.
The Lucerne is another big car available now for around $21k to start, may be worth a look. But the Taurus and Azera have more refined powertrains than the base engine in the Lucerne.
But we are straying a bit outside the mid-sized class now, aren't we... so to get back to that a bit: have they looked at the Camry V6? Should be able to get one under $25k, especially the hold-over 2008s. There was that issue with the tranny, but Toyota has probably corrected that by now.
#9064 of 20239 Re: Chevy Malibu LTZ V6 [backy]
Mar 10, 2008 (9:46 am)
You're right about the direction I've gone (off-topic) and I apologize to other readers for that.
As far as the Camry V6 goes, my folks don't like the look of the Camry, and have not been impressed with Toyota's quality as of late (my dad's first cousin has a new Camry LE-V6; it's very "blah" in typical Toyota fashion). At least stepping to one of the "bargain-buys" of the full-sizers you get less anonymity and lower price.
As avi and backy said, those big bargain buys are a lot of bang for the buck. How's that for alliteration?
Mar 10, 2008 (1:23 pm)
>big bargain buys are a lot of bang for the buck.
Those Big Bargain Buys Bring a Bunch of Bang for the Buck.
#9066 of 20239 Re: Chevy Malibu LTZ V6 [backy]
Mar 10, 2008 (2:44 pm)
I just spent 5 days in a Hertz 2008 Azera Limited with the Ultimate Package, and the Azera is one nice car. I drove from central Illinois to Charlotte, NC and back - total mileage for trip was around 1,600 miles.
The Azera handles fine - not floaty at all - much more like a European sedan. Excellent steering, handling, and a supple and complient suspension - just the right combination of ride and handling. The 3.8L DOHC V6 has plenty of spunk, and at idle, you don't even know the engine is running. The 5-speed automatic shifts very smoothly. In the mountains (including the Great Smoky and Appalachian) on the interstates through southern KY, throughout TN, and in NC, the Azera could more than keep up with the traffic - in fact, it could easily leave it behind. I really had to watch my right foot throughout the trip. Overall gas mileage, and I must note that the typical speed on the interstates even through the mountain areas was 80MPH, was 28MPG. The speed sounds excessive throughout some of the mountain ranges - which it is - but, if you don't peddle that fast, you'll be run over by 18-wheelers running at least that speed - especially down hill!
The amenities with this car are very impressive. And, I carefully inspected the interior and exterior build-quality - it, too, was most impressive. As good, or better, than I've seen from any manufacturer. Frankly, I came away very impressed, and wouldn't hesitate to buy this car.
#9067 of 20239 Test drive 08 Accord
Mar 11, 2008 (9:44 am)
I just test drove a 08 Accord LX-P auto I4 today. I was actually pretty impressed. I have never been a big fan of the Accords ride, road & tire noise and transmission behavior but thought all other areas were very good. This car is addresses most of what I didn't like. However, the interior is a bit more plastic than I remember and the outside styling is OK....not ugly, not pretty...just all right. Things that I really liked was the smooth ride, good acceleration, sliding arm rest, auto down/up front windows, radio and radio controls and general roominess. What I didn't find was that there were too many buttons or controls. There has been a lot of discussion about all the buttons(to the point of confusion) but I didn't have a problem quickly figuring things out and thought they were fine. Now maybe the cars with NAV or something have a lot more but the LX-P was OK.
I didn't drive it for days but from what I noticed in a short test drive, I really liked the car.
#9068 of 20239 Honda Accord
Mar 11, 2008 (10:30 am)
I really liked the 2003-2007 Accord interior layout. Especially the Navigation system; touch screen, mini-joystick etc.
Now in 2008, they've switch to a large, single control button/switch. The Navigation screen is more recessed (further away from the driver and not touch screen).
This was a big disappointment, and one of the reasons I am not getting an Accord this time arround.
The car drives fine, just like the previous version. However, gas mileage on V6 accords is always way below EPA...and what's worse, the mileage gets worse as the miles go up. Maybe 4 cyclinders are different.
#9069 of 20239 Re: Honda Accord [mikec]
Mar 11, 2008 (10:59 am)
However, gas mileage on V6 accords is always way below EPA...
Everything I've ever read about V6 Accords involves their great efficiency, and how well they do under various conditions. Some getting mid-30s regularly on the highway.
Not sure where you hear that Accord V6 mileage is "always way below EPA." Can you share with us please?
#9070 of 20239 Re: Honda Accord [thegraduate]
Mar 11, 2008 (12:35 pm)
I am a bit anal on mileage tracking with my Accord V6. This is in reference to the V6 in the 2003-2007 model Accords.
Real world city is about 19-21, Highway, 22-25. Highway was a bit higher when the car was new, but now at 80K miles, it's fallen off quite a bit.
I am not a lead foot; once in a while I will got 80mph on the freeway, but most is 55-65.
I methodically measures the mpg (not using on board computer, which is close), but by gallons put in and odometer readings.
Now, let me be clear - for price/performance, the engine is nice. For efficency relative to power, it's good.
However, I feel like "for a few less mpg", I could have gotten a even better performer.
I really like the car, but the mileage has always been much less than expected. Maybe the new VCM will make it better, but I have my doubts.
I guess the answer is if I want 30+mpg, get a hybrid.
#9071 of 20239 Re: Honda Accord [mikec]
Mar 11, 2008 (12:59 pm)
You mileage is clearly on the low side. Of course it depends a lot on how you drive. One mans' driving like a bat out of you know where, is another mans' driving like a granny.
#9072 of 20239 Re: Honda Accord [mikec]
Mar 11, 2008 (2:06 pm)
I have an 03 V6 automatic, and I get 23mpg consistantly around town (5 miles or less drives with stop signs and red lights). I also easily get over 30mpg on the interstates. I would really have to drive like the proverbial Bat out of know where, to get 22mpg on the highway. I don't think your mileage is typical of the 7th gen V6 Accords. My 03 V6 gets better mileage than my 92 4cylinder Accord did.