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Replying to: karsick (Feb 13, 2008 12:47 pm) Another option for a little euro-flavor in handling and ride, without the high purchase and service prices, has been Ford with the Contour and now the Fusion. With the Fusion they may have also attained good reliability. |
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Replying to: colloquor (Feb 14, 2008 6:24 am)
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Replying to: 94hawkskin (Feb 14, 2008 9:31 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Feb 14, 2008 9:52 am)
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Replying to: colloquor (Feb 14, 2008 1:52 pm) The soft, pliant suspension of the Sonata provides good isolation from the road, but suspension noise intrudes... Frequent body motions are noticeable as speed rises. On the highway, the ride is buoyant. The Sonata has noticeable body lean, and the steering is a bit numb. Bumps in corners cause the car to bob and pitch, making it feel ungainly. |
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Replying to: m6user (Feb 12, 2008 5:28 pm) |
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Just wanted to pass on to future attendees to the Chicago Auto Show(or if you are going tomorrow which is the last day of this year's show), if you are active military or currently serving in the reserve/guard admission is free. I have been going off and on for the past 30 years and just found out from a friend that this was the case. I am presently in the air force reserves and have been for the past 26 years and just showed my ID and walked in. This is not advertised on the official website anywhere. Saw the 2009 Sonata and took a couple of pics of the GLS dash. I had only seen the Limited dash so far in picutres with the Nav screen. If someone could tell me how to insert photos into a post, I will add them.
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Replying to: 94hawkskin (Feb 11, 2008 2:19 pm) Wrong! Absolutely utterly wrong! If you are financially blessed enough to call $2,700 dollars cash "worthless," then more power to you. I myself, might call a pair of old underwear worthless, but I certainly consider $2,700 to be a lot of money. A few years ago we sold our '92 Civic DX Hatchback for $2,700 cash and it had just over 200,000 miles. It was still in great shape (and I will admit we put $1,000 in recent repairs and maintenance into it). So I'd say maybe $500 in unscheduled maintenance/repair. That is pretty darn good considering we bought it at 166K miles, and that was the total unscheduled bill. So if you buy Toyota's and Honda's, I'd say they are NEVER worthless if kept in good shape. People know they are bulletproof to about 300K if maintained properly. |
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Replying to: andres3 (Feb 16, 2008 10:37 pm) |
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Replying to: andres3 (Feb 16, 2008 10:37 pm) Honda and Toyota are two of the best proven vehicles on the road, no question. Having owned both Honda and Toyota that have had numerous repairs, my 91 Honda Accord 2 starter coils fail and a part in the auto tranny that makes the tranny shift, I forgot what it was called, failed all before 100K. MY 1991 Toyota Celica started blowing blue smoke at 120K, and I replaced the drive axle at around 100K. The Accord was owned by my father new, and I got it with 60K and the Celica I bought when I sold the Accord, had 64K on it. All were maintained by the book. My fathers 2004 Accord EX-L V6 has had a new tranny placed in it, and had "vapor lock" issues or something like that, a few months after he purchased it. Are these two brands garenteed to make it to 300K with proper maintenance, No. No car is. The longest lasting vehicle in my family was my mothers 1992 Ford Taurus, with over 165K before problems started. Go figure. The fact is, 90% of people never keep their cars to 150K, let alone 300K. Plus, unless you are in dire straights, who would buy a car with over 150K and assume you have another 150K in it, and be perfectly reliable. Lets be real here, please.
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