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Re: An hour with a Camry LE-V6 [plekto]
by captain2
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Feb 13, 2008 (2:44 pm)
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Replying to: plekto (Feb 12, 2008 2:41 pm)
GM also has this exact same problem. World-class engines
OK I'll bite - what engines would those be?
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Re: An hour with a Camry LE-V6 [captain2]
by thegraduate
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Feb 13, 2008 (4:13 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 13, 2008 2:44 pm)
The 3.6L DI is a nice one, and the 6.2L in the Vette isn't bad at all.
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Re: An hour with a Camry LE-V6 [colloquor]
by bhmr59
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Feb 13, 2008 (7:01 pm)
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Replying to: colloquor (Feb 13, 2008 10:27 am)
Which trim line was your rental Sonata, GLS, SE or Limited? 4 or 6 cyl?
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Re: An hour with a Camry LE-V6 [bhmr59]
by targettuning
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Feb 14, 2008 (4:32 am)
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Replying to: bhmr59 (Feb 13, 2008 7:01 pm)
He stated it was a GLS, no engine type stated.
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Re: An hour with a Camry LE-V6 [thegraduate]
by captain2
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Feb 14, 2008 (6:09 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 13, 2008 4:13 pm)
Inclined to give a pass to the 3.6HF V6, although it is still unproven in terms of longevity - just like the 2GR. Efficiency if you look at both power per unit volume and FE lags just a bit. Thought we'd hear something about the Northstar which was certainly a good engine in its prime, but also lags by today's standards or any of the multitude of pushrod V6s which actually account for the bulk of GMs efforts and are anything but 'world class' just like the 4 banger 'Ecotecs'. As GM finally gets production of the 3.6 up enough to use it on pretty much their whole line (just like Toyota & Nissan do with their 3.5s), and finally puts things like the 3.5s, 3.8s and 3.9s out to pasture - that will be the point that GM can be claim to make some good engines. Getting 400hp out of 400 CI V8s doesn't really count IMO, not that it is a bad engine, it just is what it is.
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Re: An hour with a Camry LE-V6 [bhmr59]
by colloquor
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Feb 14, 2008 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: bhmr59 (Feb 13, 2008 7:01 pm)
It was a new 2008 GLS with the 2.4L I-4. I didn't have a complaint with the engine, and averaged a combined 25.5MPG during the rental which included about 50/50 city and highway mileage. Again, this car was brand new with only 6 miles on the odometer when I picked up the car from the Hertz agency in Orlando - I was the first person to rent the vehicle.
I've rented the current gen Sonatas on several other occasions over the past couple of years on business trips, all of which had more miles than this one of course. Most have been GLS trims with the I-4, but a few were GLS with the 3.3L V6.
If I drove the Sonata over a severely undulating surface, including freeways with either a poor surface or a lot of dips, the rear suspension would tend to bottom and you would get a wallowing "jounce (shock compression) and rebound" effect from the rear suspension. More importantly, the rear suspension simply appears to be under damped or dampened (insufficient shock control, especially on the rebound). In my previous Sonata rentals, I've attributed this to perhaps the "rental car syndrome," as those had over 15K on the clock, some with slightly over 20K. But this Sonata acted exactly the same, and it was brand new.
I also drive a 2006 Hyundai as one of my personal cars, so I try to be as objective as possible. On smooth or moderately smooth surfaces, the Sonata's suspension is fine, but on really rough surfaces, especially undulating surfaces such as asphalt which has seen a lot of semi truck traffic, the Sonata's rear suspension seems to have a control problem. BTW . . . in neither situation was the car overloaded with people or luggage - only the driver and one passenger.
Again, Hyundai is addressing this in the 2009.
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Re: An hour with a Camry LE-V6 [karsick]
by jeffyscott
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Feb 14, 2008 (6:48 am)
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Replying to: karsick (Feb 13, 2008 12:47 pm)
I'm happy that in the past 15yrs or so, the Asians have seen fit to offer models that appeal to people trading out of Euro-cars...Now we can have a mix of Euro-flavor without the headaches of poor reliability expensive "Jag-You-Arrhhh" or "Bring My Wallet" servicing
Another option for a little euro-flavor in handling and ride, without the high purchase and service prices, has been Ford with the Contour and now the Fusion. With the Fusion they may have also attained good reliability.
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Re: An hour with a Camry LE-V6 [colloquor]
by 94hawkskin
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Feb 14, 2008 (9:31 am)
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Replying to: colloquor (Feb 14, 2008 6:24 am)
I own a 2006 GLS and the car handles fine. About the only complaint I have from the rear of the car is that it does lack some noise protection, especially when the trunk is empty. Other than that, the car has more than met my expectations.
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Re: An hour with a Camry LE-V6 [94hawkskin]
by mickeyrom
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Feb 14, 2008 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: 94hawkskin (Feb 14, 2008 9:31 am)
I have owned (leased actually) a 2006 Sonata GLS and had no problems whatsovever with handling or ride. Great car.
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Re: An hour with a Camry LE-V6 [mickeyrom]
by colloquor
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Feb 14, 2008 (1:52 pm)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Feb 14, 2008 9:52 am)
I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers, but it's what I experienced. I had essentially the same experience with a Sonata rental in Dallas a few months ago, so it wasn't peculiar to this particular vehicle. I've also driven the Limited V6, and have not noticed the problem even though the suspensions are the same with the exception of the wheel size and perhaps the rear strut/shock valve calibration.
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