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Replying to: jeffyscott (Feb 13, 2008 5:30 am) I also just spent a week with a "brand spanking new" 2008 Hyundai Sonata GLS from Hertz (6 miles on the odometer), and although the ride is decent, the suspension is simply not in the same league as either the Camry or Accord. I've been a supporter of Hyundai on these boards, and I have no basic qualms with the Sonata's front suspension setup, but the rear suspension suffers from several dynamic problems, including under dampening, and shock control. I know they are addressing this in the 2009's, and well they should.
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Feb 13, 2008 5:30 am) start?... The previous ones were kind of still "Japanese", but the recent generation Toyotas are solidly GM clones. Or vice-versa. It's hard to tell which is copying which anymore.
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Replying to: plekto (Feb 13, 2008 11:46 am) The European makes' attitude here has primarily been one of "take it or leave it  " when it comes to attracting Americans. As one who favors nimble handling over advanced cupholder technology, I was a sucker for light, responsive Saabs, GTI's, Triumphs, etc. I'm happy that in the past 15yrs or so, the Asians have seen fit to offer models that appeal to people trading out of Euro-cars (IS300, WRX, Evo, TSX, TL, newer Civics, G20, G35) while still making models that attract former Land Yacht owners (Avalon, Amanti, Pilot, Highlander, Endeavor). Now we can have a mix of Euro-flavor  without the headaches of poor reliability and expensive "Jag-You-Arrhhh" or "Bring My Wallet" servicing  !
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Replying to: plekto (Feb 12, 2008 2:41 pm) OK I'll bite - what engines would those be?
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Replying to: captain2 (Feb 13, 2008 2:44 pm)
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Replying to: colloquor (Feb 13, 2008 10:27 am)
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Replying to: bhmr59 (Feb 13, 2008 7:01 pm) I've rented the current gen Sonatas on several other occasions over the past couple of years on business trips, all of which had more miles than this one of course. Most have been GLS trims with the I-4, but a few were GLS with the 3.3L V6. If I drove the Sonata over a severely undulating surface, including freeways with either a poor surface or a lot of dips, the rear suspension would tend to bottom and you would get a wallowing "jounce (shock compression) and rebound" effect from the rear suspension. More importantly, the rear suspension simply appears to be under damped or dampened (insufficient shock control, especially on the rebound). In my previous Sonata rentals, I've attributed this to perhaps the "rental car syndrome," as those had over 15K on the clock, some with slightly over 20K. But this Sonata acted exactly the same, and it was brand new. I also drive a 2006 Hyundai as one of my personal cars, so I try to be as objective as possible. On smooth or moderately smooth surfaces, the Sonata's suspension is fine, but on really rough surfaces, especially undulating surfaces such as asphalt which has seen a lot of semi truck traffic, the Sonata's rear suspension seems to have a control problem. BTW . . . in neither situation was the car overloaded with people or luggage - only the driver and one passenger. Again, Hyundai is addressing this in the 2009.
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Replying to: karsick (Feb 13, 2008 12:47 pm) Another option for a little euro-flavor in handling and ride, without the high purchase and service prices, has been Ford with the Contour and now the Fusion. With the Fusion they may have also attained good reliability. |
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