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13294 messages, Last post on Nov 30, 2009 at 12:19 PM
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Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 10, 2008 3:11 pm) Engine - Above 3000 RPM, this thing is a monster. TONS of usable power, and highway speed has no effect on it seemingly - it pulls as hard at 20 MPH as it does at 70 when you give enough throttle for a downshift or two. Interestingly though, around town the Camry felt slower than my 4-cylinder Accord, and I'm sure this is due to the lazy throttle response programming on the Toyota, and the sharper programming in the Honda. The quiet in this car is serene, but I'd rather hear a little more of the 2GR! I think they have this figured out, I have never felt the 2.4 in the Accord down for power, especially with the manual transmission. I have also been happy with the fuel economy. Of course, I was fine with the 93 Accord and the 93 Civic as well, power and economy-wise.
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Replying to: exshoman (Feb 10, 2008 5:26 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Feb 10, 2008 6:27 pm) I now have 40,000 trouble free miles on my car. Not even a single shake, vibration or squeal from the car yet. The interior is still the same as the day I bought it. Outside of a car that I t-boned (not my fault), the exterior is also still the same. Had to replace the front grill, bumper and hood from the wreck. Have had a lot of people ride in the car and said something like, "What did this thing cost about $25,000 or something." You should see the shock in their face when I tell them $17,000. They can't believe a car can be this quiet, ride this nice and be hassle free for the price I paid. The only downside is that Hyundai doesn't hold their value as well as others, but like all my cars, I will keep this car until it at least has close to 200,000 miles on it at which point all cars are worthless. Just thought I would post as a lot of people said see how that Hyundai holds up when you get some miles on it. |
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Replying to: 94hawkskin (Feb 11, 2008 2:19 pm) |
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Replying to: akirby (Feb 10, 2008 6:27 pm)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Feb 11, 2008 4:27 pm) I'd guess most of us on this forum learned to drive on a manual tranny. My dad just made sure we were on rural roads away from traffic when he let me drive the first time. Don't give your kid a "crutch" that will keep them from enjoying cars as they were meant to be. Your kid will get a HUGE ego boost knowing something that their overprotected echo-boomer friends have been shielded from (IMHO, natch  )
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Replying to: akirby (Feb 10, 2008 6:27 pm) Then again, myself and all of my friends learned to drive on manual transmission cars, and have only had sticks since then. There was a study done in Israel that said it takes 5 years to learn to drive a stick, but that is based on Israeli driving habits, so based on time in vehicle and mileage, it would be more like 2 years in the US. By learning to drive a stick, they mean there is no additional cognitive load.
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Feb 10, 2008 6:23 pm) It's really the transmission. It has such tall gearing with the automatic that short of flogging it, it'll never willingly stay in the 2500-3500 rpm range. Thankfully I hear the 5 speed automatic solves a little of that.
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Replying to: plekto (Feb 11, 2008 5:25 pm)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Feb 11, 2008 5:15 pm) Way under powered 6 cyl engine, maybe 85 HP, with sloppy 3 speed manual shift on the column. Paid $350 for that junk, but that was 1965. My parents were away on the day we picked it up. Grandmother drove me to the used car dealer to pick it up in the city. I had to drive it home, stopping on hills, and had no alternative transportation. Within a couple days I could drive that underpowered thing, no 1st gear syncro, quite well. That car was so pigged out it whinned like crazy at 55 MPH and probably couldn't go over 65 or 70 MPH. I think I had it up to 65 once and had to back off because it sounded like the engine was ready to blow up. It was a base model complete with steering wheel, manual tranny, and heater. Had to install my own radio as the car did not come with it and the previous owner did not install one. Point is, if someone know how to drive, they can learn to drive a manual shift in no time at all.
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