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Replying to: backy (Feb 08, 2008 6:05 am) To Hyandai's credit though, I think, based on the reviews I've read and heard, they have made major improvement and as much as I hate to say this, it won't surprise me if their Sonata surpasses the Accord within the next 1~2 model generations. They certainly have surpassed the Accord in the features, price, and warranty department.  Personally, I actually like the new Sonata's front end styling better than the 08 Accord ( the Accord's rear looks better than Sonata's though). 
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Replying to: according2u06 (Feb 08, 2008 8:00 am) Given the improvements Hyundai has made to the '09 Sonata, addressing nearly every shortcoming in the '06-'08 models, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Sonata overtake the Accord as early as the next genreation of the Sonata, in 2011(?).
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Replying to: elroy5 (Feb 07, 2008 10:07 pm) .
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Replying to: targettuning (Feb 08, 2008 9:27 am) To use an analogy, this kind of qualititative interperation is exactly what separates BMW from the rest of the pack. If you discard items that can't be quantitatively measured such as precise feel, interior design, exterior design all cars boil down to their numbers and nobody buys that way. So while numerical information regarding the vehicle is important, qualitative impressions play just as large a role in vehicle selection.
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Feb 08, 2008 9:43 am) |
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Replying to: targettuning (Feb 08, 2008 10:05 am)  D. Since you used BMW as an example I figured that was the one you were trying to defend. The "gotta have it" is a goofy category that in my opinion has no place in a family sedan test. Gotta have a Camry/Accord/Sonata/Malibu/Jetta etc. more than any other family car in existance? Give me a break! I would probably prefer one or two over the others but "GOTTA HAVE IT!!"?? Maybe in a Corvette...Viper comparison I'd get that emotional.
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Replying to: targettuning (Feb 08, 2008 10:30 am) Make that GOTTA HAVE IT vs. CAN'T GET IT. Rumor is Chrysler is cutting half it's vehicles starting with the Viper. And to keep it on topic - not sure if that includes the Avenger/Sebring or not, but it wouldn't surprise me.
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Replying to: targettuning (Feb 08, 2008 10:05 am) What objective criteria do people typically look at? Price, size, mpg...maybe certain performance numbers. (Expected reliability is kind of a hybrid, partly objective and partly subjective, IMO). Most other stuff I can think of is subjective: styling, materials, ride, handling, seat comfort, convenience.
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Replying to: targettuning (Feb 08, 2008 10:05 am) I'll challenge that remark as you really don't know what criteria "all" people use to buy cars. You might know the criteria of a few of your friends. These "feelings" don't mean squat to the majority of family car buyers You can validate this statement how? Maybe these subjective feelings mean more the potential BMW or Mercedes driver but not so much to "ole Joe" I think. OK, you did add I think to the end. |
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Feb 08, 2008 10:47 am) |
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