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Re: Giddy Smirky Pride [targettuning] by robertsmx
Nov 21, 2007 (8:28 am)
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Replying to: targettuning (Nov 21, 2007 5:32 am)

The stat isn't based on volume, but based on per 100 cars (I think). That said, not all thefts may be for parts, but that can be assumed for most cases. In case of Hondas, you have to couple longevity and compatibility.
 
It was with 1998 Accord that Honda got very serious about it. An example is the audio system. It was beginning of a new era that has led to more integrated (and unique) systems since then, and virtually no compatibility going from one generation to another. You could take stereo out of a 1991 Accord and put it in 1997 Accord, or even a 2000 Civic. You can't take 1998 Accord's stereo out (first of all, it is anti-theft coded, but even if you get past it), you can't simply put it in a 2003 or 2008. That has limited the appeal.
 
Similar case can be made for engine, and most other parts.
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Hyundai Sonata 2006 New rear brakes at 25k? by throck25
Nov 21, 2007 (8:53 am)
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My dealer is telling me I need new rear brakes, pads, etc. after only 25000 miles. I was expecting them to last at least 40k miles. It is going to cost me over $300 for just the rear brakes. When questioned he said they are worn down and rusted. Is this common for these cars?
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Re: Hyundai Sonata 2006 New rear brakes at 25k? [throck25] by venus537
Nov 21, 2007 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: throck25 (Nov 21, 2007 8:53 am)

Aren't you covered by the car warranty?
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Re: Hyundai Sonata 2006 New rear brakes at 25k? [throck25] by jlindh
Nov 21, 2007 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: throck25 (Nov 21, 2007 8:53 am)

What is rusted? If the dealer is talking about a rusted rotor, it sounds like one of your calipers is not working. On the other hand, all your brake rotors will rust when exposed to water. The brake pads will remove the rust when the brakes are applied. The overall wear would depend mostly on your driving style.
 
If you're hard on brakes, you might try a different pad.
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Re: Hyundai Sonata 2006 New rear brakes at 25k? [throck25] by phaetondriver
Nov 21, 2007 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: throck25 (Nov 21, 2007 8:53 am)

Rear brakes should out last the fronts 2 or 3 to 1. ABS is one thing that can make rear brake pads wear out faster than normal. I would suspect that there is a PROBLEM with the ABS system which should be a warranty covered system. If the calipers are rusted, that would be a factory material defect and should be a warranty covered part. The only thing not covered by most new car warranties would be the pads (and labor).
I would immediately take my car to a brake shop and get a second opinion from an expert. No way should pad replacement cost $300.
 
Good luck
Oh! Happy Thanks-giving too
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Re: Hyundai Sonata 2006 New rear brakes at 25k? [throck25] by robertsmx
Nov 21, 2007 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: throck25 (Nov 21, 2007 8:53 am)

25K is way too early, more so for rear brake pads. How much life are they estimating is left on the front pads? If you can believe it, my 1998 Accord's pads lasted 90K miles (front) and 132K miles (rear). At 184K miles, those are the only times they have been replaced but they both seem due for replacement soon.
 
But, did they say you needed more than brake pads? Then, you might be able to ask for warranty coverage. I can see pads being a wear and tear item and not covered, but if it involves rotors or something else, ask them.
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MT COTY - GM takes it! by backy
Nov 21, 2007 (5:37 pm)
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But not the Malibu--the CTS. GM's first MT COTY in a decade. The 2008 Accord and Malibu were finalists, however. What was interesting that in MT's scoring system, the Malibu out-pointed the Accord. The link below takes you to the reports on the Accord and Malibu.
 
http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/car/112_0801_2008_car_of_the_year_finalists
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Re: MT COTY - GM takes it! [backy] by thegraduate
Nov 21, 2007 (7:54 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Nov 21, 2007 5:37 pm)

Shouldn't there have been a spoiler alert in that subject line? I subscribe to MT.
 
 
 
I'll be sure and check out the article when it gets to my house.
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Re: MT COTY - GM takes it! [thegraduate] by backy
Nov 21, 2007 (8:11 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 21, 2007 7:54 pm)

Maybe you should talk to MT about publishing the COTY results on the Web for all to see before paying customers like you hear about it.
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Re: MT COTY - GM takes it! [backy] by venus537
Nov 21, 2007 (10:15 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Nov 21, 2007 5:37 pm)

Perhaps I read the article too quickly. Where does it indicate where the vehicles finished in Motor Trend's scoring system? I noticed the vehicles were listed in alphabetical order but that's not an indication of the order they finished.
 
The A5 got robbed.

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