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#6840 of 18209 Re: What so special about these "top rated" cars? [pmerk28] by urnews

Oct 29, 2007 (9:26 am)

Replying to: pmerk28 (Oct 28, 2007 3:49 pm)
Sure, there are plenty of positive ones but there is an astonishingly high amount of people complaining for a Toyota and the cheap interior comes up an awful lot. I never thought I would say this but I like the Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan better.
 
I have to admire your honesty, pmerk. My wife and I own a 2007 SEL AWD Ford Fusion and the interior fit and finish is outstanding, and one of our favorite features. The materials are top notch.

#6841 of 18209 Re: What so special about these "top rated" cars? [urnews] by pmerk28

Oct 29, 2007 (10:02 am)

Replying to: urnews (Oct 29, 2007 9:26 am)
I have to admire your honesty, pmerk. My wife and I own a 2007 SEL AWD Ford Fusion and the interior fit and finish is outstanding, and one of our favorite features. The materials are top notch.
 
The Fusion/Milan interior is surprisingly nice and the materials used are of better quality than the Camry. Fit and finish is more than competitive - in fact it looks to me like the Ford was assembled better. The Fusion is weaker in the design department. The Camry's electroluminescent gauges are beautiful and ultra modern. Fords are sort of a retro look with a green lighting. The Camry has a more modern looking center stack while the Ford uses that old green LCD display for the radio and climate controls. Both need to be updated. Camry also has a nicer steering wheel. That being said I liked the Fusion better overall.

#6842 of 18209 Re: What so special about these "top rated" cars? [pmerk28] by aviboy97

Oct 29, 2007 (10:18 am)

Replying to: pmerk28 (Oct 29, 2007 10:02 am)
We use Ford Fusion's as loaner vehicles at my Mazda store. I really do not think the Fusion's have nicer interiors then the Camry. Materials are on par with Toyota, but, I do not think they are put together all that well. I have yet to sit in a Milan.

#6843 of 18209 Re: What so special about these "top rated" cars? [aviboy97] by thegraduate

Oct 29, 2007 (10:19 am)

Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2007 10:18 am)
Looked at the 2008 Taurus this weekend with my dad (for my grandmother). I have to say, it wasn't half bad. Much better than any Nissan I've been in lately.

#6844 of 18209 Re: What so special about these "top rated" cars? [pmerk28] by urnews

Oct 29, 2007 (10:21 am)

Replying to: pmerk28 (Oct 29, 2007 10:02 am)
Both need to be updated.
 
Good point. I agree.

#6845 of 18209 Re: What so special about these "top rated" cars? [thegraduate] by aviboy97

Oct 29, 2007 (11:15 am)

Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 29, 2007 10:19 am)
I agree, the new Taurus/Sable have pretty nice interiors, but the Fusions seem to use lower grade materials.
 
My mother in law has a 2004 Maxima, and it is not all that nice either. Her previous Maxima (1998) had nicer materials and build quality.

#6846 of 18209 Re: What so special about these "top rated" cars? [aviboy97] by thegraduate

Oct 29, 2007 (11:31 am)

Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2007 11:15 am)
My mother in law has a 2004 Maxima, and it is not all that nice either. Her previous Maxima (1998) had nicer materials and build quality.
 
Yep, my buddy's '97 (same car you mom-in-law's '98) is a base model, but has quality that is dang good, especially considering it's age.
 
It isn't all that great ergonomically, especially with that tiny fan speed knob, but it has no major flaws in fit or finish. It DOES have one flaw otherwise though; it's a horrible camel color that is somewhere between tan and yellow. In the brochure for 1997, I believe the color choices were black, grey, and blaeksch (the sound made when viewing the color).
 
I have driven the car once or twice and noticed it has steering lighter than any vehicle I've ever piloted. It was accurate enough, but very VERY light and quite numb as well.

#6847 of 18209 Re: What so special about these "top rated" cars? [aviboy97] by akirby

Oct 29, 2007 (11:57 am)

Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2007 11:15 am)
but the Fusions seem to use lower grade materials.
 
What is your point of reference? S, SE or SEL trims? Camel with fake wood or black/light stone with piano black trim?
 
There is a big difference between a S or SE Camel interior vs. a SEL in black or light stone with the piano black accents.
 
Check out the 2009 Flex (which is a step-up from the Taurus/Sable interiors) for a better clue as to the future Fusion interiors.

#6848 of 18209 Re: What so special about these "top rated" cars? [akirby] by aviboy97

Oct 29, 2007 (12:03 pm)

Replying to: akirby (Oct 29, 2007 11:57 am)
I believe they are base 4 cyl's with a carbon fiber like dash trim. I think the interior's are gray or black? We also have one V6 in Red with a beige interior with leather and larger alloy wheels.
 
They are all out right now, so I cannot confirm what models they are.

#6849 of 18209 Re: What so special about these "top rated" cars? [robertsmx] by pengwin

Oct 29, 2007 (2:39 pm)

Replying to: robertsmx (Oct 29, 2007 7:51 am)
alright, so what car company overall has the best reliability/interior.
 
personally the new accord's interior looks massively cluttered. if i had a choice now i'd buy an "optioned up" 07 for the price of an 08.
 
The camry is definitely out of the question after my experience with it.
 
Never owned a VW before. I just presumed that they were reliable because i see all those old VW bugs and "hippie vans" (dont know what they're called) still driving around.

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