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Re: What so special about these "top rated" cars? [venus537]
by imidazol97
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Oct 28, 2007 (7:27 pm)
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Replying to: venus537 (Oct 28, 2007 6:45 pm)
>that's a fact.
You're welcome to your opinion. But it's not a fact in this area.
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- #6821 of 13228
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Re: What so special about these "top rated" cars? [thegraduate]
by backy
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Oct 28, 2007 (7:34 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 28, 2007 6:50 pm)
Ergonomically, the Sonata's dash is not bad at all. At least the shifter doesn't block major controls, like it does on the Fusion/Milan. Some people carp about the radio, but its controls are easy to reach and simple (maybe some folks don't like it because it doesn't have a maze of buttons as on some other cars). The rotary HVAC controls on the models w/o auto climate control are silky smooth and simplicity itself in their operation. And the vents are positioned so they don't blow directly on the driver's right hand, which is a problem on many cars. Yes, the plood trim is not very convincing, but in grey (with faux carbon fiber trim instead of plood) or especially black the Sonata's dash is not the disaster some folks make it out to be. But the dash supposedly coming for 2009 does look a lot nicer, more up to date.
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Re: What so special about these "top rated" cars? [backy]
by thegraduate
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Oct 28, 2007 (7:44 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 28, 2007 7:34 pm)
Don't get me wrong buddy. I had no problem with the quality of the interior; it was on par with most cars in the class; better than several. It was the look of the thing. It had no continuity. It didn't look like interior "design" at all, actually. Just a jumble pieces stuck together. Vent placement is also poor for circulation of air to the rear of the car (unless there are rear-vents built into the back of the console?).I drive at 9 and 3, and vent placement up high doesn't hit my hands in my Accord. It didn't have ergonomic issues like the Fusion, it just failed to be pleasing to the eye. I felt like Honda nailed it on both (in the previous gen, not the 2008 model). Personally I prefer any Elantra from the last 6 years' interior over the current Sonata.
All that said, the MMC interior looks LOADS better. It should help sales, IMO.
Any word on putting the 5-speed Auto in the 4-cyl for 2009, as in the Optima?
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Re: What so special about these "top rated" cars? [tenpin288]
by pengwin
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Oct 28, 2007 (7:44 pm)
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Replying to: tenpin288 (Oct 28, 2007 6:40 pm)
Here's a link to some spy pics of what is supposedly the new dash for the 2009 Sonata.
2009 Sonata Interior Spy Pics?
nice, new sonata looks good but i don't think i can wait that long. I'll try.
I test drove a Subaru Legacy. The interior was really very nice. I just hate the fact that the turboed version costs 30k (at which point i'd buy an ES350). Also it gets crap mileage and a non turbo doesnt make sense to me. Love the pillarless doors, every car company should do that. Any one here own a Legacy? feedback?
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Re: What so special about these "top rated" cars? [thegraduate]
by joe97
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Oct 28, 2007 (7:52 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 28, 2007 7:44 pm)
Some of the key features posted in the Sonata facelift thread:
*Azera lookin front end
*Horsepower increase for both 4cyl and V6
*Improved fuel economy for both engines
*5 speed auto trans for 4cyl
*Blue background dashboard lights
*Improved handling and ride
*Specific sport handling for SE model
*Redone interior featuring, more storage,better finish,less plastic looking
*USB port and i-pod jack
*Exhaust tuned for performance sound
*Optional LG navigation system
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- #6825 of 13228
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Re: What so special about these "top rated" cars? [joe97]
by thegraduate
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Oct 28, 2007 (7:56 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Oct 28, 2007 7:52 pm)
Thanks for the info joe!
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Re: What so special about these "top rated" cars? [thegraduate]
by backy
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Oct 28, 2007 (7:59 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 28, 2007 7:44 pm)
I think the biggest problem of the current Sonata dash is the thin plood horizontal strip with a silvery accent, which breaks the dash in two. Also the silvery molding around the HVAC cluster is something out of the 1980s. That's why I think the current dash looks a lot better in grey (no plood) and best in monotone black (although I don't like black interiors in general).
Word is that the 2009 Sonata I4s will get a 5-speed AT--only 3 years after the Optima got one. 
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Re: What so special about these "top rated" cars? [joe97]
by backy
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Oct 28, 2007 (8:01 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Oct 28, 2007 7:52 pm)
That info contradicts other info on the Web that says the 2009 Sonata's front end will resemble that of the Genesis.
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Re: What so special about these "top rated" cars? [backy]
by joe97
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Oct 28, 2007 (8:14 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 28, 2007 8:01 pm)
I just copied what was posted there 
Personally, I'd want nothing changed on the exterior. I like the clean and crisp look.
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Re: What so special about these "top rated" cars? [imidazol97]
by venus537
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Oct 28, 2007 (9:46 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 28, 2007 7:27 pm)
You're welcome to your opinion. But it's not a fact in this area.
Um, it's not a matter of opinion. Either the average age of Accord and Camry drivers is lower than those who drive Buicks or it's not. In other words, I'm either correct or I'm wrong with my statement no matter where I state it.
The average Buick car buyer is 68, the average Accord car buyer is 50 and the average Camry buyer is 55.
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