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Replying to: chrono (Oct 26, 2007 9:28 am) Perhaps those freep/detroit news guys could take a few lessons on driving from C&D.
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Oct 26, 2007 9:34 am) For a big NO, try Altima 2.5 w/CVT next.
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Replying to: robertsmx (Oct 26, 2007 9:35 am) Traded in my 2005 Accord for a 07 Aura XR. Ride quality and handling to me is much more engaging. Proof that cars like the Fusion, Mazda6 and Aura have won over enthusiasts from Honda. |
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Replying to: robertsmx (Oct 26, 2007 9:36 am) I think that is definitely true of my '93. I liked the sound of that 2.2l 4 cylinder, especially going through the rev band in 3rd gear. It had a very connected feel. The '07 I don't hear anything, I don't even feel much; the car just goes faster (and it goes faster, faster too). The '05 Legacy you can hear and feel the engine working (even a little coarse sometimes). Its just a much more connected feel. |
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Replying to: chrono (Oct 26, 2007 9:44 am) I'm not sure why people keep bringing up Aura and its handling, having rented it a few times, I haven't found it yet. If anything, it lacks steering feel and response (and if GM is further softening it for Malibu as rumors suggest, it is going to be even worse). Accord's handling hidden are those of a car that doesn't scream handling on first glance. It is there, if you know and want to use it. I don't have much experience with 2003-2007 Accord, however (and none with 2008) but enough to know it still maintains those attributes. Its got all that one needs to cruise at 80 mph without worries, even in cross winds, over bumps (no additional rebound) and with communicative steering (it lets you feel stuff that many cars dubbed "good handling" don't). Even with almost 182,500 miles on the odometer, my 1998 tracks straight at high speed so much so that all you do is hold the steering lightly without having to do anything, even over bumps. The ratio tightens up and it feels as solid as can be expected. Those little things are often missed by most. They go more for the glitter.
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Oct 26, 2007 8:01 am) Toyota is stopping production of the 2008 in Q1 next year, which is very weird, since the 08 has only been out for a very short months. Still, I think the 2009 will have minor cosmetic changes, if anything. We shall see.
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Replying to: maxamillion1 (Oct 26, 2007 7:42 am) I have a hunch (not a prediction, just a hunch), that the car mags are waiting for the new Malibu to do their next midsized sedan comparo. It will make for a much more interesting story line to pit the all-new Accord against the new Malibu. Although maybe the Camry won't make some comparos, like C/D's, because it finished so low in its last comparo (behind the old Accord, the new Altima, and the Optima). So C/D might do the Accord vs. Malibu, and maybe the Altima and Optima. MT will probably include the Camry since it was their COTY last year. And as we know, Edmunds.com is planning a big face-off of the Accord, Camry, and Malibu in late November, using drivers they pick from contest entries. CR will undoubtedly do a test including the Accord and Malibu as soon as they can. So hold on, the comparos will be coming soon. |
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Replying to: joe97 (Oct 26, 2007 12:42 pm) |
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 I don't know about you guys, but, after having bought a 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS and having a joyful time with it, I have wondered about a new Galant re-design from Mitsubishi coming along. And what does robertsmx provide a few short minutes later as I was reading up on all of the posts in this thread the past 5 days I've been busy at work? He posts a link to these pictures from Mitsu! Concepts, yes, but I can see the Lancer's nose in this new Galant. This is the new design direction from Mitsubishi and it has grabbed me by the shorthairs to take notice, uh-huh. |
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Replying to: robertsmx (Oct 26, 2007 11:00 am) Actually, the Accord had quite a bit of value compared to it's peers at one point. It really had a quality advantage that many other cars did not have maybe 10-15 years ago. But now that Consumer Reports and Jd Powers have shown that the difference in problems over 5 years for most of the cars in this class is around 1 additional problem from the most reliable to the least, that advantage is gone. And at the same time, initial purchase price being thousands more than many competitors with quality just as good to the Accord and in some cases better, Honda no longer has the advantage it once had. Yes, it is still a very good car and one that I would consider if I were in the market.... but I'd have to agree with those who have pointed out that the Accord seems to have softened in the current generation and that is a change I don't welcome. Accord's handling hidden are those of a car that doesn't scream handling on first glance. It is there, if you know and want to use it. I don't have much experience with 2003-2007 Accord, however (and none with 2008) but enough to know it still maintains those attributes. While I think the 03-07 Accord had decent handling compared to the previous gen Altima and Sonata, compared to the Legacy and Mazda6 it is not nearly as connected without increasing ride quality by a similar amount. Steering feel of the v-6 coupe I test drove was nowhere near as direct or confidence inspiring as the Subaru or Mazda. And why you're talking about your 98 Honda's handling in this forum (which is about new cars last I checked) doesn't make sense to me. Should I talk about my 81 Accord and make a point about how underpowered and unsafe it was?
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