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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: 2009 Is The Year To Wait For [jaxs1] by backy
Oct 25, 2007 (7:06 pm)
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Oct 25, 2007 6:43 pm)

I wonder if Toyota would refresh the Camry after only two model years. They typically wait at least 3 for a mid-gen refresh.
 
Could 2009 be the year there's another car at the top of the mid-sized heap, by press consensus? Maybe the new Mazda6?
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Re: Most Wanted Re: the meaning of zoom-zoom [jeffyscott] by andres3
Oct 25, 2007 (7:11 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Oct 24, 2007 5:02 am)

Not to mention one has to pay an extra $1200, over the Camry LE price, to get the SE. Many other cars come with good handling standard on all trim levels.
 
Ahhh, but didn't you see the Lexus Commercial many years ago where they were touting the ability to drive over the wood planks along a railroad track without even feeling it? To some, the ride matters more than handling, and for those people, they seem to wish to be able to run over human bodies without noticing it one bit. Maybe they could drink a scalding hot cup of coffee and not worry about spilling any (without a lid) even while running over a curb? Isolation used to be advertised more.
 
Maybe they like those cars like the Camry so much, so that when they do run someone over, since you can't even feel it or notice it, it can't very well be a hit and run can it?
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Re: Beyond silly Sable vs Taurus ratings, CR [ronin5] by andres3
Oct 25, 2007 (7:42 pm)
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Replying to: ronin5 (Oct 25, 2007 3:14 am)

It's nice that CR admits its error in misleading its subscribers; it's funnier that people still accept CR as gospel.
 
I think CR and Toyota will get a pass from readers and consumers since they have been dead-on bullseye bulletproof reliable and spotless for over 15 years with the Camry. CR's predictions seem to be far more accurate than JD Power's advertised "data."
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Let's continue by pat HOST
Oct 26, 2007 (3:31 am)
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the CR and JD Powers conversation in the Comments: Consumer Reports/JD Power Rankings discussion.
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Re: 2009 Is The Year To Wait For [backy] by mz6greyghost
Oct 26, 2007 (3:57 am)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 25, 2007 7:06 pm)

Could 2009 be the year there's another car at the top of the mid-sized heap, by press consensus? Maybe the new Mazda6?
 
Considering they won over 100 different awards with the first-gen...
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Re: 2009 Is The Year To Wait For [jaxs1] by urnews
Oct 26, 2007 (6:04 am)
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Oct 25, 2007 6:43 pm)

MMC and stability control finally on the Ford Fusion
 
What's MMC?
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Re: 2009 Is The Year To Wait For [urnews] by joe97
Oct 26, 2007 (6:06 am)
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Replying to: urnews (Oct 26, 2007 6:04 am)

Mid-model change
 
Generally during the middle life cycle of a particular model.
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Re: 2009 Is The Year To Wait For [joe97] by akirby
Oct 26, 2007 (6:30 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Oct 26, 2007 6:06 am)

Also known as a midcycle refresh.
 
We're hearing rumors that the 09 Fusion refresh might be delayed but no confirmation. I guess we'll know for sure in January at NAIAS.
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Re: 2009 Is The Year To Wait For [akirby] by joe97
Oct 26, 2007 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 26, 2007 6:30 am)

probably at LAIAS, from what I am hearing.
 
MMC: Mid-model Change
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Re: 2009 Is The Year To Wait For [backy] by maxamillion1
Oct 26, 2007 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 25, 2007 7:06 pm)

I'm with you on that one...I don't see 'Yota refreshing the Camry after two model years. 2010 will bring the refreshed Camry, though toyota has been known to do partial changes. Like engine changes before a refresh, then refreshing the body itself.
 
2010 brings a Refreshed Altima...and from what I've been seeing a new galant should be out by 2009. If its anything like the Lancer is now, the Galant might turn out to be competitive with the value leaders of the group.
 
What's funny is that the Midsize Family sedan forums are probably the most hotly contested forums on Edmunds.com yet NOBODY ever does many comparison tests on these cars anymore.
 
Not yet have we seen a comparison of the new Accord verse more than the Camry. It's a shame IMO. I'm ready to see the Malibu compared to others in this class as well because I really like the 'Bu and have always liked the Aura.
 
If Saturn made the Aura available with a I4 (which is going to be avaialble this year) with a stick shift. I'd take it over the Altima and everything else in this class except for maybe the new Accord.
 
The Aura so far is my favorite domestic sedan.

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