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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan

#6746 of 13224 Re: Beyond silly Sable vs Taurus ratings, CR [backy] by robertsmx Oct 25, 2007 (5:48 pm)
Replying to: backy (Oct 25, 2007 3:46 pm) Insulting? Since you refuse to respond to questions directly, but still want to argue, I had to get around to get your response. So, may I ask you what was your point around this...   "You asked for my prediction, my opinion, and that's it. Why? Simply, why not use all the weapons at your disposal in a war, instead of just one?"   And then you complain about getting insulted (somehow). Replies to this message: backy (Oct 25, 2007 6:03 pm)
#6747 of 13224 Re: Beyond silly Sable vs Taurus ratings, CR [robertsmx] by backy Oct 25, 2007 (6:03 pm)
Replying to: robertsmx (Oct 25, 2007 5:48 pm) I think you may have misread my response. I was trying to explain why I responded to the question as I did, i.e. that I saw Hyundai emphasizing quality and reliability in the future in addition to value, because they should use all the weapons they have available to them. I don't know why you would be insulted by that response.   I am insulted, however, that you would assume that I am trying to evade your questions and would be presumptous enough to write your own answers when you didn't like mine. So don't bother to ask me any more questions--just go ahead ahd answer them yourself; you're very good at that.
#6748 of 13224 Same old same old by joe97 Oct 25, 2007 (6:31 pm)
Different day...   Another case when Hyundai (Sonata) does something well, and deservedly so, wait, let's try to see if CR is showing bias in the brand (car) two years from now...
#6749 of 13224 2009 Is The Year To Wait For by jaxs1 Oct 25, 2007 (6:43 pm)
2009:   MMC and stability control finally on the Ford Fusion   Diesel Honda Accord   6-speeds automatic replaces 4-speeds on all 4-cylinder Malibus (not just LTZ)   MMC Hyundai Sonata with new interior (possible nav and bluetooth)   MMC Toyota Camry (new 4 cylinder engine and maybe tranny fix for V6)   Restyled Mazda6   Lots of stuff to wait for. Replies to this message: backy (Oct 25, 2007 7:06 pm) mz6greyghost (Oct 26, 2007 3:57 am) maxamillion1 (Oct 26, 2007 7:42 am) mz6greyghost (Oct 26, 2007 7:54 am) jaxs1 (Oct 26, 2007 8:01 am) and 2 more... robertsmx (Oct 26, 2007 8:08 am) backy (Oct 26, 2007 1:59 pm) urnews (Oct 26, 2007 6:04 am) joe97 (Oct 26, 2007 6:06 am) akirby (Oct 26, 2007 6:30 am) and 1 more...
#6750 of 13224 Re: 2009 Is The Year To Wait For [jaxs1] by backy Oct 25, 2007 (7:06 pm)
Replying to: jaxs1 (Oct 25, 2007 6:43 pm) I wonder if Toyota would refresh the Camry after only two model years. They typically wait at least 3 for a mid-gen refresh.   Could 2009 be the year there's another car at the top of the mid-sized heap, by press consensus? Maybe the new Mazda6? Replies to this message: mz6greyghost (Oct 26, 2007 3:57 am) maxamillion1 (Oct 26, 2007 7:42 am) mz6greyghost (Oct 26, 2007 7:54 am) jaxs1 (Oct 26, 2007 8:01 am) joe97 (Oct 26, 2007 12:42 pm) and 1 more... robertsmx (Oct 26, 2007 8:08 am) backy (Oct 26, 2007 1:59 pm)
#6751 of 13224 Re: Most Wanted Re: the meaning of zoom-zoom [jeffyscott] by andres3 Oct 25, 2007 (7:11 pm)
Replying to: jeffyscott (Oct 24, 2007 5:02 am) Not to mention one has to pay an extra $1200, over the Camry LE price, to get the SE. Many other cars come with good handling standard on all trim levels.   Ahhh, but didn't you see the Lexus Commercial many years ago where they were touting the ability to drive over the wood planks along a railroad track without even feeling it? To some, the ride matters more than handling, and for those people, they seem to wish to be able to run over human bodies without noticing it one bit. Maybe they could drink a scalding hot cup of coffee and not worry about spilling any (without a lid) even while running over a curb? Isolation used to be advertised more.   Maybe they like those cars like the Camry so much, so that when they do run someone over, since you can't even feel it or notice it, it can't very well be a hit and run can it?
#6752 of 13224 Re: Beyond silly Sable vs Taurus ratings, CR [ronin5] by andres3 Oct 25, 2007 (7:42 pm)
Replying to: ronin5 (Oct 25, 2007 3:14 am) It's nice that CR admits its error in misleading its subscribers; it's funnier that people still accept CR as gospel.   I think CR and Toyota will get a pass from readers and consumers since they have been dead-on bullseye bulletproof reliable and spotless for over 15 years with the Camry. CR's predictions seem to be far more accurate than JD Power's advertised "data."
#6753 of 13224 Let's continue by pat HOST Oct 26, 2007 (3:31 am)
the CR and JD Powers conversation in the Comments: Consumer Reports/JD Power Rankings discussion.
#6754 of 13224 Re: 2009 Is The Year To Wait For [backy] by mz6greyghost Oct 26, 2007 (3:57 am)
Replying to: backy (Oct 25, 2007 7:06 pm) Could 2009 be the year there's another car at the top of the mid-sized heap, by press consensus? Maybe the new Mazda6?   Considering they won over 100 different awards with the first-gen...
#6755 of 13224 Re: 2009 Is The Year To Wait For [jaxs1] by urnews Oct 26, 2007 (6:04 am)
Replying to: jaxs1 (Oct 25, 2007 6:43 pm) MMC and stability control finally on the Ford Fusion   What's MMC? Replies to this message: joe97 (Oct 26, 2007 6:06 am) akirby (Oct 26, 2007 6:30 am) joe97 (Oct 26, 2007 6:34 am)

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