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Re: Just throwing this out there [lilengineerboy] by thegraduate
Oct 25, 2007 (7:38 am)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Oct 25, 2007 7:34 am)

I agree with that too. The only thing is it is easier for her to get in a car that's higher up. My aunt (who has an Odyssey and is pining for a CR-V - she thinks they are "the cutest thing!")wants her to test a CR-V. That may be a good idea.
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Re: Just throwing this out there [thegraduate] by aviboy97
Oct 25, 2007 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 25, 2007 6:51 am)

I've been price shopping the new Taurus for my grandmother
 
Is she looking for FWD or AWD?
 
I will say, you do get a lot of car for the money in the Taurus/Sable
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Re: Just throwing this out there [thegraduate] by kdshapiro
Oct 25, 2007 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 25, 2007 7:29 am)

"She's not a driving enthusiast (she's 72) so the whole Honda "handling" premise doesn't matter to her."
 
Riding around in retirement communities one can't help but notice the number of Accords and Camrys. One has to wonder why?
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Re: Just throwing this out there [kdshapiro] by thegraduate
Oct 25, 2007 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Oct 25, 2007 7:45 am)

Well, if its anything like my grandmother's case, she keeps buying what she's always had because they've been nothing but good. She told me "they've never given me a reason to go anywhere else" talking about buying cars at the Honda dealer that is literally walking distance from her house. Her first Honda was bought when she was in her early 50s.
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Re: Just throwing this out there [aviboy97] by thegraduate
Oct 25, 2007 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 25, 2007 7:45 am)

Is she looking for FWD or AWD?
 
FWD. We haven't had measurable snow in Birmingham in 7 years (although that IS a record!). All her cars for the last 20+ years have been FWD
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Chat Night by pf_flyer HOST
Oct 25, 2007 (8:10 am)
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I guess tonight could be our Crew World Series party since last night's game makes me think there's a slim chance the Series might not last until next Thursday!
 
The Subaru Crew Chat is on tonight. The chat room opens at 8:45PM ET Hope to see YOU there! Check out the schedule
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Supersize the Midsize by moparbad
Oct 25, 2007 (8:25 am)
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Accord History
 
1985 Honda Accord
Wheelbase 102.36 in
Length: 178.50 in
Width: 66.92 in
Curb Wt. 2200 lbs
 
2008 Honda Accord
Wheelbase 110.2 in
Length: 194.1 in
Width: 72.7 in
Curb Wt. 3300 lbs
 
2008 Honda Civic
Wheelbase (in.) 106.3
Length (in.) 176.7
Width (in.) 69
Curb Wt. 2700 lbs
 
Wow! The Civic is now nearly the same size as the Accord used to be.
 
How large is large enough for a midsize car? Is the current Accord and similar size cars too small, too large, or just right?
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Re: Beyond silly Sable vs Taurus ratings, CR [robertsmx] by backy
Oct 25, 2007 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: robertsmx (Oct 25, 2007 7:15 am)

See what happened with Focus. It had a high predicted reliability when it first arrived, right?
 
Predicted by whom? Not by CR. They would never have predicted high reliability for a brand-new model from Ford, back when the Focus debuted, or now. But with Ford improving, maybe they'll get the "magic pass" sometime in the future.
 
A prediction is only good if things remain fairly constant. With Toyota's reliability falling off (several indications of this besides the trouble with the V6 Camry), and given they have been a leader in reliability for many years, it's just not a good idea for anyone to predict high reliability for a brand-new design from any car maker these days.
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Re: Just throwing this out there [thegraduate] by lilengineerboy
Oct 25, 2007 (9:02 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 25, 2007 7:38 am)

I agree with that too. The only thing is it is easier for her to get in a car that's higher up. My aunt (who has an Odyssey and is pining for a CR-V - she thinks they are "the cutest thing!")wants her to test a CR-V. That may be a good idea.
 
The CR-V might be a lot higher up. I definitely remember having to step up to get in. You might also look at the Suabrus. The Outback models have slightly different suspensions and silly tires and wheels that make them a little higher to help egress. I think my mom is leaning towards one of those.
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Re: Beyond silly Sable vs Taurus ratings, CR [backy] by robertsmx
Oct 25, 2007 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 25, 2007 8:29 am)

Predicted by whom? Not by CR. They would never have predicted high reliability for a brand-new model from Ford, back when the Focus debuted, or now.
 
Go back a few posts and you will see someone posting Focus being rated high initially by CR (in 2000). Those aren't my words, and since I don't have subscription to CR, can't validate that either.
 
That said, do other cars get predicted reliability ratings from CR? Or, was it limited only to Camry?

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