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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#6466 of 20218 Re: 93 octane [captain2]
Oct 18, 2007 (4:10 pm)
Mazda plays very poorly in the HP wars these days almost making 'zoom-zoom' a joke. Maybe if Ford will let them have enough 3.5s they can get back in the right neighborhood, but if this will be the case, won't Ford recognize that there would be no reason for us to buy a Fusion.
What are you talking about?? The Mazda6 is up for a redesign, and in 2003 it was just as competitive as the rest of the mid sized sedans. The Mazda3 is STILL a top performer in the compact market. The MX-5 is revered at the #1 roadster of all time. The CX-7 is quicker/ drives better then a Murano/CR-V and others. The CX-9 has been absoultley great, and just won the MT SUV of the year, kudos to its driving dynamics. The MS3 smashes it;s competitions, beating the Si and GTI. How has Mazda making "zoom-zoom" a joke? You gotta be kidding me, it seems as if you know nothing about Mazda. They are more "zoom-zoom" now then ever.
#6467 of 20218 Re: 93 octane [aviboy97]
Oct 18, 2007 (4:48 pm)
Yes, it might outperform the 325xi, but wouldn't have a chance next to the 335xi. It might win the stop light race from the 328(xi) but not win on driving dynamics. The 325xi is about the worse performer from BMW, but I cannot comment on the veracity of the comparison. Someone else might have a different take.
#6468 of 20218 Re: 2008 Accord [colloquor]
Oct 18, 2007 (5:38 pm)
From the AutoWeek review of the Accord:
Thumbs way up on the way the car drives, which is what matters, of course. It's a Honda: stable, solid and quiet on the road. It is not, however, much fun to drive, even with a manual transmission. The engine is adequate, but you need to really wring out the shifter to keep it in the power band; it feels like a slug at low revs. And to think there's an even less-powerful four-banger available.
Ouch... I figured Honda would soften up the Accord a little, but to make the v-6 get this kind of review, that is very surprising from a magazine which has generally been very nice to Honda. I've heard the coupe is a bit more fun though, so I still have hope. But it sounds like "fun to drive" and stylish is becoming the domain of the more expensive Acura.
#6469 of 20218 Re: 2008 Accord [zzzoom6]
Oct 18, 2007 (5:49 pm)
The car was an I-4, not a V6
#6470 of 20218 Re: 2008 Accord [zzzoom6]
Oct 18, 2007 (5:49 pm)
I found the Accord pleasant to drive, very solid and with a smoother ride than the previous generation. A great family car. But fun? No.
I wonder if Honda has considered an Accord Si version, ala the Civic Si.
#6471 of 20218 Re: 2008 Accord [03accordman]
Oct 18, 2007 (6:29 pm)
oh yeah, I forgot there are two different I-4's.
#6472 of 20218 Re: 2008 Accord [backy]
Oct 18, 2007 (11:19 pm)
I hate to hear they've gone more mainstream and given up some crispness... that was a part of the Accord's appeal over its competitors!
#6473 of 20218 Re: 2008 Accord [thegraduate]
Oct 19, 2007 (3:45 am)
I think it's because Honda wanted to go for a bigger piece of the pie and aim at Camry buyers. Camry owners like their pillow soft ride so Honda had to compromise. That's too bad.
#6474 of 20218 Re: 2008 Accord [chrono]
Oct 19, 2007 (3:59 am)
The Camry ride is not "pillow soft," but is is pretty smooth compared to an Accord. Maybe an Avalon or Buick Lucerne is pillow soft.
The Accord ride is pretty rough and bumpy if the road isn't glass smooth.
#6475 of 20218 Re: 93 octane [captain2]
Oct 19, 2007 (4:00 am)
And sure all mfgrs. will end up justifying their 'mistakes' with a 'planned' 2 year production run - wonder what would have happened if the car had sold well.
Has ANY MazdaSpeed model lasted more than 2 years? Let's see... The MS Miata? Nope... The MS Protege? Don't think so (and that was a good seller for Mazda.) The current MS3 (as of right now) is planned on lasting until '09, since a new 3 is expected in '09-'10.
Mazda has NEVER planned on a MazdaSpeed lasting more than 2 years, it's simply a way to entice the model before an expected redesign. Always has, always will.
What would happen if the car sold well? Nothing more than a bigger profit for Mazda.