Midsize Sedans 2.0

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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan

#4672 of 18170 Re: CTS - Fusion [m1miata] by urnews

Sep 05, 2007 (12:40 pm)

Replying to: m1miata (Sep 04, 2007 9:49 pm)
Looks wise, how many here prefer the Milan to the Fusion? Or are they too close to call. And does the front really remind you of a razor -- hey is that Gillette Fusion razor? In a way, I like that front, as much as I prefer the Milan tail lights.
 
I'm one of those who prefer the Milan's back side, the tail lights and the tag being in the bumper instead of the trunk. But, the wife and I definitely liked the front end of the Fusion better. It's really distinctive, among all mid-size sedans.
 
In the end, the Fusion won out. Besides, if the latest rounds of rumors are to be believed, Mercury may go the way of Plymouth and Oldsmobile by 2012.
 
Ford, and hopefully Fusion, will be around for decades to come.
 
Boz

#4673 of 18170 Re: 2007 Accord 4-cyl 5-speed [benderofbows] by 1487

Sep 05, 2007 (12:43 pm)

Replying to: benderofbows (Sep 05, 2007 10:40 am)
if you want a manual you options are limited to camry, accord, Optima/Sonata and 6 I would say. Fusion and 6 have slightly worse mileage but are sporty and inexpensive. I dont think the Accord is unique in offering an affordable 4 cylinder ride with good mileage. If you drive an auto the Malibu and G6 offer similar mileage at similar prices.

#4674 of 18170 Re: CTS - Fusion [urnews] by 1487

Sep 05, 2007 (12:47 pm)

Replying to: urnews (Sep 05, 2007 12:40 pm)
I think the Milan is one of the best looking sedans in the class. I like pretty much every angle of that car. If it had a little more power I might be driving on instead of an Aura.

#4675 of 18170 Re: 2007 Accord 4-cyl 5-speed [1487] by backy

Sep 05, 2007 (12:53 pm)

Replying to: 1487 (Sep 05, 2007 12:43 pm)
A couple other options if you want mid-sized interior room are the Sentra (with standard 6-speed, something not available with the Accord/Camry/Mazda6/Sonata/Optima I4s) and the Elantra.

#4676 of 18170 Re: back to reality [jeffyscott] by m1miata

Sep 05, 2007 (1:07 pm)

Replying to: jeffyscott (Sep 05, 2007 5:49 am)
I was looking at automatic with the V6 engine. And those Mazda6 are over priced. Once discounted by $5k they descended into a more realist price. Pity those paying closer to retail. Seems like a nice car. Like any other car, just shop the prices to see how it compares. Close-outs brought it closer to being a safe buy. Otherwise the total price in and out is a lot more than buying an Accord or Camry. That said, as always this it but one consideration. If you like the car, that is possibly above all consideration, unless you are a numbers man -- one that lives to save a penny. Intellichoice will not know about some dealer offering $5K off in your hometown. Things vary. Using an average to buy and the average when sold, Mazda6 will lose. Deep discount and it become more even, but you still may lose. It is not a good game for Mazda. The Miata after 18 years of ownership may still bring you $3,000 or more, but that is the exception. Mazda seems to have soul, which is precious rare these days.
L

#4677 of 18170 Re: back to reality [m1miata] by imidazol97

Sep 05, 2007 (1:12 pm)

Replying to: m1miata (Sep 05, 2007 1:07 pm)
> Mazda6
 
Happened to pull parking duty at an event Saturday evening at the local high school. I occasionally ask people with new cars how they like their car. The winner for excitement was the Mazda6 owner and his wife. They loved their car. The Camry owners and Accord owners respond without a lot of excitement. But the 6 guy was really pleased with his choice.

#4678 of 18170 Re: 2008 Accord vs. 2008 Camry [m6user] by m1miata

Sep 05, 2007 (1:15 pm)

Replying to: m6user (Sep 05, 2007 6:12 am)
For glass area, I am thinking an older BMW, like the 325 or maybe the old real SAABs, just a thought. Recall a time when most cars had windows and you did not feel like you were driving a tank. I do not like the A pillar blind spot and bulkiness. Maybe my next car is a well taken care of European, Japanese or even top line American car, like a Caddy. I even recall the days when you could see the hood. Wonder if the 2008 Accord has hood in view, as I see they have raised the hood in the photos.
L

#4679 of 18170 Re: 2008 Accord vs. 2008 Camry [1487] by m1miata

Sep 05, 2007 (1:27 pm)

Replying to: 1487 (Sep 05, 2007 7:14 am)
Has anyone seen the Accord for 2008? From the photos, it looks pretty good to me. The front is more orderly to me than is the New Malibu which is split the three ways. New Malibu should be on par with the rest overall for looks. SEE LINK but I am not sure I like the looks of the pricing. Starts at $20K and the as shown is $27K ??? A Malibu $27,ooo? Isn't a base SAAB 9-3 something like that with a stick? And are they not deep discounted? It better look like solid gold in the showroom. Will stop in a Caddy dealership to see if the CTS is in the showroom yet. I hope it has not changed so much as to become a clone of a Fusion with a let's show the world we are a Caddy front. CTS must remain edgy and its own DNA. (as always IMHO, and your smileage will vary )
 
Hey, on the left here and ad shows the Hyundai Sonata, starting at $17,345. Wow, almost $3K under the New Malibu, before discounting. Folks, it is getting pretty ugly out there in the car wars. Good for shoppers though
Loren

#4680 of 18170 Re: 2008 Accord vs. 2008 Camry [m1miata] by lilengineerboy

Sep 05, 2007 (1:40 pm)

Replying to: m1miata (Sep 05, 2007 1:15 pm)
For glass area, I am thinking an older BMW, like the 325 or maybe the old real SAABs, just a thought. Recall a time when most cars had windows and you did not feel like you were driving a tank. I do not like the A pillar blind spot and bulkiness. Maybe my next car is a well taken care of European, Japanese or even top line American car, like a Caddy. I even recall the days when you could see the hood. Wonder if the 2008 Accord has hood in view, as I see they have raised the hood in the photos.
 
I always felt that's what made the '93 Accord seem so sporty. It feels low to the ground (and it is, I am looking at the new Accord's door handles from inside the 93), and you can see the road pretty much right in front of the car.

#4681 of 18170 Re: Aura I4 [csandste] by andres3

Sep 05, 2007 (2:36 pm)

Replying to: csandste (Sep 02, 2007 4:22 pm)
Test drove the Civic before my wife bought the Optima. More money for less car. Seemed noticeably smaller than my 01 Elantra.
 
If you consider "more money for less car" then you really should say, more money, for higher quality, nicer smaller car."
 
The Optima doesn't get anywhere near the fuel economy of the Civic. I say you get more BANG for your buck with the Civic by saving on gas.
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