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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#4063 of 20165 Re: Mazda6 vs the Accord in interior space [thegraduate]
Aug 13, 2007 (5:58 pm)
I'm wondering what's wrong with your Accord; it is firmer than most of its competitors (except for Mazda 6 and Ford Fusion).
In fact, my 06 Accord is firmer than my '96 or my grandmother's '02.
The only two Hondas we've ever had (out of the last 8 I remember) that rattled at all were my dad's 2003 Accord and our 2000 Odyssey.
My 1996 is still relatively tight and rattle free after 174,000 miles. My grandmother's is as well, and she has 89,000 miles on her car.
The '93 & 95 Civics and the '93 Accord all are virtual symphonies on the highway, especially when the weather turns cool. The speedometers squeaked, the dash rattles, the back window creaks on the Civics, the front window squeaks on the Accord. Clunks don't count, that just means something is broken, these are squeaks and rattles. Whats even weirder is that these cars spent most of their lives in CA, where the roads are relatively smooth, at least compared to MI.
#4064 of 20165 Re: Mazda6 vs the Accord in interior space [backy]
Aug 13, 2007 (6:01 pm)
The back seat of the Subaru Legacy is more comfortable for two adults than the Accord's back seat? Not in my experience. I found plenty of leg room in the Accord. The Legacys I've sat in were more cramped than some compact cars in back. Although I like several things about the Legacy, including its AWD, I had to strike it off my list right there.
I can't think of the last time I had to transport someone over about 5'10", and he had plenty of legroom, if not hip-room as compromised by the infant seat. I guess for our heights, I find the back seat very comfortable, although like I said, not as much as the G35.
#4065 of 20165 Re: Ford Sync [lilengineerboy]
Aug 13, 2007 (6:44 pm)
I agree with you. My experience with Ford has been a lot better than my luck with Honda. I've had 4 Escorts, a German Fiesta, and 2 Jaguars. All have been very good.
#4066 of 20165 Re: Ford Sync [oldcem]
Aug 13, 2007 (6:51 pm)
Oktoberfest meets Cinco de Mayo?
#4067 of 20165 Re: Mazda6 vs the Accord in interior space [thegraduate]
Aug 13, 2007 (6:54 pm)
The Accord feels more "airy" and roomy to me, but its something intangible that I can't really back up, so I won't try to.
Well, since EPA says Accord has 103 cubic feet of passenger volume vs. 96 for Mazda6, there must be a little extra space here and there in the accord. So what you say makes sense. I think the way some talk about the Mazda6 being "cramped" overstates the differences, however.
Aug 13, 2007 (7:14 pm)
I'm not complaining about my luck with Honda either, they were inexpensive and reasonably durable. The Fords were also. Both where reasonably cheap to repair. The only huge POS we had was a Reliant and that was so long ago I can't be mad about it, the whole company has changed hands 3x since then.
That and they redeemed themselves with the Grand Voyager that ran great and lasted a long long time.
Honestly, everyone is nit-picking details, its very hard to make a bad choice in this segment in aggregate, although some choices are better for some people than others.
#4069 of 20165 Re: Mazda6 vs the Accord in interior space [jeffyscott]
Aug 14, 2007 (4:41 am)
There's an old expression....perception is reality. That 7 cubic feet might make a difference to some, a non-issue for others.
#4070 of 20165 Re: Ford Sync Demo [frankinbeans]
Aug 14, 2007 (11:30 am)
So you use the actual key to unlock the door. Slide the FOB into the slot near the steering wheel and the FOB will start the car even though the Intellikey craps out.
That's how I understand it.
I hope I never have the opportunity to find out.
You and me both!
#4071 of 20165 Re: Ford Sync Demo [mz6greyghost]
Aug 14, 2007 (12:37 pm)
From my understanding, Its not the Ikey that starts the car, per se. the sensors in the car scan for it, or rather the signal it puts out. if the car can not pick up that signal, it won't enable the starter. What the slot does, is puts the Ikey extremly close a sensor (not sure if its a different one) so its easier to detect the fob. Now I'm not a 100% sure of this next part, but i've read that the sensor behind the slot send out a signal that actually has a very, very, very small current to it that can power the Ikey just enough to send out its signal. I suppose you could test that by removing the battery from you Ikey, putting it the slot, then trying to start your car.
#4072 of 20165 Re: Ford Sync Demo [jd10013]
Aug 14, 2007 (2:00 pm)
What about security with Nissan's system, what do you do when some hacker invents a key that can detect your "code signal" 6 months from now rendering your keyless start useless or vulnerable to attack?