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#3944 of 13141 saturn aura xr by aurakr Aug 08, 2007 (2:18 pm)
I have been following the forum for quite a while now. In January 07, my wife and I purchased a midnight blue Aura XR with the moroccan brown leather. Beautiful car. I know the Camry and Accord are the top sellers, but I truly think most people are missing out by not considering the Aura. The 3.6 with the 6 speed automatic is a gem. Just returned to San Diego from Las Vegas. The car was made for that trip. Tankfuls were 27 mpg, 26mpg, 28 mpg and 27 mpg. Climate control at 73 degrees. We have just over 3500 miles on the car.   I was curious before the trip to see how it would pull the grades. Most hills no downshift at all. On the long grade before Baker, one downshift into 5th and 80 mph at 2500 rpm. The car is extremely quiet. The gearing certainly encourages highspeed running, 80 mph in 6th is 21-2200 rpm.   One thing we have learned is that the transmission takes about 1000 miles to truly learn your driving style. The transmission learns over that time. After 1000 miles, it seems to never make a misstep.   Add 5star crash testing all around, plus my wife loves the adjustable pedals and you have one great car. Originally I was concerned that 252 horsepower would not be enough with Camrys with 268 and Altimas with 270, but believe me, I never thought I would say this, 252 is more than enough.   Unlike the Camry, it doesn't float. I have a 2006 Impala LS I drive for work, great car, but the Aura is in another league for curves. Steering feel is so much better in the Aura. It just does everything well.
#3945 of 13141 Re: not all OEM tires are cheap [m1miata] by benderofbows Aug 08, 2007 (4:04 pm)
Replying to: m1miata (Aug 08, 2007 2:16 pm) Most average cars don't hold up well in high speed crashes. These pictures were taken after a wreck which occurred less than 5 miles from my house in December 2006. I didn't take them, they are posted on the local news channel website. The car shown, a Honda Accord, was stopped at a light when it was hit from behind by a Nissan Pathfinder which was estimated to be traveling at around 60 mph. Witnesses say they heard the big engine revving up at full throttle moments before the impact... The driver of the Pathfinder was fine, but the Accord's occupants did not make it, as well as a motorcyclist. Very sad, and scary.     Replies to this message: kdshapiro (Aug 08, 2007 4:09 pm)
#3946 of 13141 Re: not all OEM tires are cheap [mayberryguy] by backy Aug 08, 2007 (4:09 pm)
Replying to: mayberryguy (Aug 08, 2007 4:53 am) No, you are not slamming the Sonata. But you used a four-letter word that starts with "sh" to describe it. You meant it as a compliment then, as in "oh sh**, what a nice car!"?   The Sonata is not the equal to the Legacy in one important aspect: Legacy has standard AWD. In some other aspects, the Sonata is superior to the Legacy. As for being equal to the Accord, the Sonata is superior in some ways and not as good in others. So "better" is relative to what the buyer is looking for. If someone is looking for a mid-sized car with lots of room, strong performance, excellent safety features, and would like to spend as little as possible for it, the Sonata might be "better" in that buyer's eyes than the Accord. The Accord might be better for someone looking for, for example, crisper handling. Replies to this message: kdshapiro (Aug 08, 2007 4:13 pm) mayberryguy (Aug 08, 2007 7:17 pm) lilengineerboy (Aug 08, 2007 7:29 pm) elroy5 (Aug 08, 2007 8:55 pm) thegraduate (Aug 08, 2007 9:01 pm) and 2 more... lilengineerboy (Aug 09, 2007 4:37 am) backy (Aug 09, 2007 4:47 am) goodegg (Aug 09, 2007 5:18 am) and 21 more... lilengineerboy (Aug 09, 2007 7:44 am) and 1 more...
#3947 of 13141 Re: not all OEM tires are cheap [benderofbows] by kdshapiro Aug 08, 2007 (4:09 pm)
Replying to: benderofbows (Aug 08, 2007 4:04 pm) I wouldn't want to get into a high speed crash in any car. Even the CTS, of which a high profile car crash was covered in NJ, burned up in a high speed collision.   If you make it out of one of these wrecks, G-d was on your side for the day.
#3948 of 13141 Re: not all OEM tires are cheap [backy] by kdshapiro Aug 08, 2007 (4:13 pm)
Replying to: backy (Aug 08, 2007 4:09 pm) As a car IMO, the Accord is better in the absolute sense. But you are right in the way you refer to buyers priorities. Using your baseline, a Lincoln Town car can be a better than vehicle for some buyers than a 750i if one is looking for a roomy luxo sedan at a much cheaper price. In the absolute sense though I would take the 750 over the Town Car in a heartbeat.
#3949 of 13141 Re: not all OEM tires are cheap [m1miata] by benderofbows Aug 08, 2007 (4:19 pm)
Replying to: m1miata (Aug 08, 2007 2:16 pm) Loren,   I don't think Corvettes do specifically well in crashes.   Supposedly, this Vette crashed into trees at "a high rate of speed" in New Jersey.   Replies to this message: elroy5 (Aug 08, 2007 4:28 pm) dilettante (Aug 08, 2007 6:03 pm) m1miata (Aug 08, 2007 6:55 pm)
#3950 of 13141 Re: not all OEM tires are cheap [benderofbows] by elroy5 Aug 08, 2007 (4:28 pm)
Replying to: benderofbows (Aug 08, 2007 4:19 pm) At speeds in the 100mph range, no car (without a real roll cage) is safe. 5 star crash ratings are to show injury rates for "minor crashes". Anything approaching 100mph is not minor. Replies to this message: dilettante (Aug 08, 2007 6:03 pm)
#3952 of 13141 Re: not all OEM tires are cheap [elroy5] by dilettante Aug 08, 2007 (6:03 pm)
Replying to: elroy5 (Aug 08, 2007 4:28 pm) Given that crash tests are designed to replicate a crash between two cars traveling 35 mph, I don't even want to think about crashes over 100.
#3953 of 13141 Re: not all OEM tires are cheap [benderofbows] by m1miata Aug 08, 2007 (6:55 pm)
Replying to: benderofbows (Aug 08, 2007 4:19 pm) Trees tend to always win. How did the driver and passenger do. Doesn't look good. & Thanks for the site... I looked up Wrecked Exotics. Interesting.   Loren

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