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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: The 2008 Accord [andres3] by akirby
Aug 07, 2007 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: andres3 (Aug 07, 2007 4:00 pm)

Only in your mind......
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Re: not all OEM tires are cheap [m1miata] by scottl
Aug 07, 2007 (7:26 pm)
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Replying to: m1miata (Aug 06, 2007 8:46 pm)

Horse hockey. There are dozens of non-German cars that will cruise at 120-150 mph safely. The Corvette, the Mazdaspeed6 and the Pontiac (Holden) GTO (soon to be the Pontiac G8) for example.
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Re: not all OEM tires are cheap [mayberryguy] by backy
Aug 07, 2007 (7:56 pm)
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Replying to: mayberryguy (Aug 07, 2007 4:48 am)

If you think that 3 mph top speed difference is the only performance variant between a 335i and a Sonata, then you have never driven nor would likely appreciate the difference.
 
Uh... no. Read what I said again, please. I wouldn't spend $15k extra because of 3 mph more (147 vs. 150 top speed). There's other attributes of a 3 Series I might spend the money to get, however.
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Re: The 2008 Accord [akirby] by andres3
Aug 07, 2007 (8:18 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Aug 07, 2007 5:00 pm)

Time will tell, can't wait to hear the specs!
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BMW's Mid-size sedan by prosource1
Aug 08, 2007 (3:04 am)
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What would a profit-makin, $20k mid-size Bimmer perform like? They don't have one but could they offer one that could compete in this segment There is not one Europeon car offered at this price to the world's largest auto market which implies a number of things(Saturn's don't count either). With the Euro valued 37% higher than the dollar, good luck finding one ever!
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Re: not all OEM tires are cheap [mayberryguy] by targettuning
Aug 08, 2007 (3:43 am)
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Replying to: mayberryguy (Aug 07, 2007 2:16 am)

Yuk, yuk, yuk...you shore are witty!!
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Re: not all OEM tires are cheap [scottl] by kdshapiro
Aug 08, 2007 (4:23 am)
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Replying to: scottl (Aug 07, 2007 7:26 pm)

His point is just because the Sonota is speed limited to 150, doesn't mean that it will stable at that speed. While some other cars are extremely stable at that speed and higher.
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Re: not all OEM tires are cheap [kdshapiro] by mayberryguy
Aug 08, 2007 (4:53 am)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Aug 08, 2007 4:23 am)

His point is just because the Sonota is speed limited to 150, doesn't mean that it will stable at that speed. While some other cars are extremely stable at that speed and higher.
 
Thank you kdshapiro. That was my point exactly, along with the 335i reaching terminal, although limited, velocity quicker than the Sonata. Raw numbers alone don't tell the whole story. I only piped up originally because the Sonata was reported to be quieter than the 335i. The point is most people who purchase a 335i want to hear that I6 TT at full howl. What a sweet sound it is.
 
I'll say this again for clarity, I am not slamming the Sonata. I think it is an acceptable base car to compete on the lower end of the Midsize Sedan market. I do not think it is an equal to the Accord or Legacy however. IMHO
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Stability at High Speed by andres3
Aug 08, 2007 (2:08 pm)
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Can be done and tested with a simple test drive..... but you'd have to find a salesman willing to let you cruise at 120 MPH plus.....
 
Trust me, you will feel the difference between cars' handling capabilities, feel, and stability at high speeds.
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Re: not all OEM tires are cheap [scottl] by m1miata
Aug 08, 2007 (2:16 pm)
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Replying to: scottl (Aug 07, 2007 7:26 pm)

Polo!
You can, if you so wish to drive any car of your choosing that fast on the Autobahn. There are few cars I would feel safe in though at those speeds. I would put a full cage in that Mazdaspeed before entering into the 120 - 150 MPH range, but then again, I am not you so it won't hurt anyway. Sonata wreck at 100+ MPH ...hummmm?
 
Guess those Corvettes hold up well in high speed wrecks, though there has never been any testing done which we can use to determine how they do compared to other cars in the normal crash tests. Wonder what a wrecked Corvette would look like if the speed was over 100 MPH at the time? I have considered a C4 but the back is said oh no, then a C5 which is easy in and out of. Wonder how they do in the real world? I think the records indicate a lower than average injury rate and a higher than average death rate, if memory serves me right. Go figure! 120 - 150 MPH crashes = ouch!
If anyone has any data from a crash test, please post a link, thankx
Loren

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