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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#3649 of 20239 Re: Not according to this... [m1miata]
Jul 24, 2007 (4:17 am)
I don't see Chevy making the Malibu RWD anytime soon. That would be foolish considering the Malibu is a volume seller (fleets and othewise) Chevy has the highest brand recognition and the biggest dealer network.
Chevy is GM's largest brand and GM as a company needs to keep at least one fully mainstream sedan to compete head to head with the likes of the Accord and Camry. Making the Malibu RWD would be a bad idea. That would leave the Aura as the only real FWD midsize offered and Aura sales are disappointing at best. Also, you have to remember that a LOT of folks don't want RWD. Further, from what I've been reading about the RWD, 2009 (or is it 2010?) Camaro, GM is having a tough time bringing the platform cost down so that a base Camaro V6 can be offered for $25K. That same platform would not be available for a RWD Malibu for about $18.5K. What other RWD platform could they use and remain cost efficient?
Offering a RWD Full Size Impala and a FWD Midsize Malibu is probably GM's best bet that way you take care of the biggest market of sedans (FWD Midsize Sedans) which Chevy has GOT to be in to be succesful and the growing, revitalized RWD full size market (300, Charger, soon Aussie Fords)
From what I've read, the G6 isn't going anywhere as far as it's name is concerned. Pontiac is doing the whole "alphanumeric" thing so even if the next Midsize Sedan were to go RWD (outside of the new G8) the name will still end up being G6 b/c they can't call it a G5 or G4. G6 name is likely to remain.
I'd propose the following:
Malibu=FWD, offered with I4/6spd combo throughout (Not just LTZ models) and V6/6spd combo as it will be. Malibu should compete completely head to head with the Accord and Camry offering similar options, similar power.
Aura=FWD, should compete more along the lines with the Mazda6, Nissan Altima, Suby Legacy. Maybe offer AWD on it (if that's possible) Aura should be the sportier alternative to the Malibu, with Euro handling and a more euro looks (from spy shots of the next Vectra, we may get an Aura like this)
G6=Competely RWD, a poor man's BMW.
That way no one is stepping on anybody's toes. My question is what happens to the LaCrosse after the Impala get's redesign because aren't they on the same platform?
#3650 of 20239 Anybody see the latest Hybrid Comparo?
Jul 24, 2007 (4:31 am)
Edmunds just completely one.
Seems like the main things keeping the Altima from being the winner are slightly lower fuel comsumption, lack of availability and high pricing.
The Aura Hybrid is pitiful...hope GM can hurry up and get the dual-mode system in it.
I wonder if Altima sales would be any higher if the Hybrid were more available in other states, especially down in the cities of the SE (Atlanta, Charlotte) and Midwest (Chicago, St. Louis) etc?
#3651 of 20239 Re: Not according to this... [elroy5]
Jul 24, 2007 (4:59 am)
That's bad decisions from the past still haunting GM today. Do they have to keep making them?
That's the part of Ford's plan that people seem to forget. Ford now has 29,000 fewer workers than it had 12-18 months ago BUT these workers left with a one time buyout and thus they are not eligible for any future pension or health care benefits. Ford has $0 future obligation. That will save the company at least $3B next year in expenses and that's not counting any of the plant shutdowns. And this didn't cause any sales reductions - this was excess capacity that wasn't being used anyway.
#3652 of 20239 Re: New feature [pat]
Jul 24, 2007 (5:15 am)
I think that Dealer Rater needs some work. I punched in my zip code and preferred make and it listed dealers that were way out of my comfortable range and the one that is actually close to me is now closed and the building has been sold to WalMart. There are 3 dealers for the make I chose that are a lot closer to my house and they weren't on the list. I never heard of a couple of the dealers the system listed actually.
#3653 of 20239 Re: New feature [baggs32]
Jul 24, 2007 (6:03 am)
I think you will hear from the Help Desk on this, but for any others who might run into these kinds of things, here's how to report it. Go to the Help link at the bottom of the page and then to the Contact Us tab at the top. You can give all the details there and it will be reported to the people who can straighten it out.
There is no category for DRR (yet, maybe it's coming), so be sure to specify DRR, or Dealer Rater or something in the body of your report to be clear where the issue is.
#3654 of 20239 Re: Not according to this... [m1miata]
Jul 24, 2007 (10:44 am)
In San Diego there is a Cadillac/Saab/Hummer Dealer....
#3655 of 20239 Re: Not according to this... [maxamillion1]
Jul 24, 2007 (2:11 pm)
Well then, make the Impala FWD. Pontiac could then be the all RWD and Performance division. Personally, I think while the New Malibu may do well in the market, they are wasting so much time, money and energy taking on Honda and Toyota say, one on one. Just make a cool looking car like the CTS for the masses. People buy for various reasons, but the style is important, if you are not going to extremes to outdo the competition on the track. If they really make those Holden Pontiac imports drop dead gorgeous, then perhaps they will sell like hotcakes. I am afraid other cars like the Aura and New Malibu, while being OK for content have no major look appeal to separate them from all the rest.
First GM did the head butt routine with VW, then Japan, and now must have a major sized headache from doing so. Leave the head butts for the animals in the wild and do the cool little side step, and dance around the competition while they are left standing in place.
#3656 of 20239 Re: Not according to this... [andres3]
Jul 24, 2007 (2:12 pm)
They seem to think of Saab as more worthy of a companion on the lot than would be the Buicks?
#3657 of 20239 I'd get an Aura if it was
Jul 24, 2007 (3:00 pm)
$15,000 dollars for an XR fully loaded....
#3658 of 20239 Re: I'd get an Aura if it was [andres3]
Jul 24, 2007 (3:35 pm)
You sure are a generous sort. LOL