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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#3592 of 20230 Re: 08 or 09 Mazda6 [maxamillion1]
Jul 22, 2007 (3:25 pm)
Those new found sales for the Impala are mostly rental fleet. 53.9% for the first half of 2007 were fleet sales of one sort or another. The Honda Accord was 4.9%, so there you have it, you decide. Altima 16.4% fleet - big deal ! The Impala found some new retail customers when it change the look inside and out. The freshen up was a good one. More advertising and a longer warranty also helped. It however is no match for the foreign competition. The car is what it is. A bit larger, good for a company car or renting for a vacation.
The New Malibu is going to do better than the Aura, no doubt. It has all the Chevy dealerships and a more interesting looking interior, with possibly better pricing off-the-bat. So Malibu does well, Aura is just sort of hanging around and the G6 is due to die off.
#3593 of 20230 I don't have anything to decided
Jul 22, 2007 (4:03 pm)
As I said, if the Impala (regardless of fleet sales) can be sold in great numbers, who's to say a Malibu which is significantly better than the Impala, and better than the Aura can't do the same thing? Each year those fleets sales have went down for the Impala, so it's a sign that retail sales for the Impala are actually improving.
I never mentioned anything about the Accord's fleet sales, which I knew would be low. But I do believe that the new Malibu will be a true competitor, more so of a competitor than the Fusion, Aura or Sonata mainly because of Chevy's big dealer network and the fact that the car is soooo much better than the current model. I also feel that the Malibu's styling is going to attract some people to and that it's interior (with it's elements of cheapness) is unique because it offers so many color schemes.
Some features of the Malibu are missing (Nav, Bluetooth, etc) but I feel the car is going to be competitive otherwise, just like the Aura is...but it will be a MUCH better seller than the Aura because it has a bigger network of dealers, a competitive V6, I4/6spd auto combo on the LTZ, and more competitive pricing than the Aura has.
We'll have to wait it out and see...but in the meantime, as an owner of the previous generation Altima, I'm still worried about the car.
Has anyone seen this pic of the new 'Bu? I'm feeling it.
Either way I can't wait until all these new cars get here! A new Accord in Sept, around the same time we get to see the new Mazda6 in Geneva. By Jan, the new Malibu will be here.
Can't wait to see some comparison tests.
#3594 of 20230 Re: I don't have anything to decided [maxamillion1]
Jul 22, 2007 (4:10 pm)
Nope, fleet sales are rising for the Impala
#3595 of 20230 Re: Warranties [plekto]
Jul 22, 2007 (4:15 pm)
Say he gets a $9995 Chevy Aveo(5 year drivetrain) - about as cheap as it gets new. It's going to kill him in payments...
After estimating the insurance cost, that alone kills him. So another beater it is...maybe it'll be a midsize .
#3596 of 20230 Re: Warranties [urnews]
Jul 22, 2007 (4:18 pm)
You can count on it. Anyone know if mid-size sedans cost less to insure?
My insurance went up $48 per year when I traded my Mazda6 S in for the Mustang GT. Howver, I'm not 20 years old like jeffyscott's son either.
#3597 of 20230 Re: I don't have anything to decided [maxamillion1]
Jul 22, 2007 (4:18 pm)
The New Malibu is the most promising of all the cars built off that chassis. What GM needs though is more NEW - UNIQUE cars again. Move ahead of the bunch of other stuff in the market place and get that old we are Body by Fisher top notch in style thing going again. I am thinking a good platform for this is the Aussie cars coming to Pontiac, then Chevy. The New Malibu is a good enough entry, but a bit like an " oh yeah, we can do that too " car. The Aura XE was a mistake, they all should have been the upscale XR and price at $21,999 in the beginning.
Malibu should be the price leader with the i4, then have the 3.6 V6 for say that $21,999 price tag, at the very most.
#3598 of 20230 Honda Accord 5-80 MPH
Jul 22, 2007 (5:14 pm)
I thought it would be interesting to post a video of my Accord accelerating from 5 to 80 MPH. This way everyone can hear what it sounds like when it sings its song, sort of share in the experience. We've certainly done enough talking about acceleration, engine noise, etc... now watch the video.
This was filmed at a rest stop. I started rolling at 5 MPH in the truck lane which merges with the car lane that becomes the onramp. You can see a white Expedition pass by in the car lane a few seconds before I begin my run. Before even reaching the end of the ramp, I've caught the Expedition and have to merge all the way over into the fast lane on the freeway, coming up on a car which is going 80 MPH. There was plenty of lane left. It certainly was fun.
LINK TO VIDEO ON CARSPACE
The car feels much faster than the spec sheet suggests. For all the people who say you need a V6 to make merging/passing "safe" or that 4-cylinders can't perform, you've got to try a Honda!
Anybody else want to post a video of what their car sounds like at full throttle? Mazda6, Altima, Aura... what is the merging experience like?
#3599 of 20230 I get confused
Jul 22, 2007 (5:35 pm)
There are two V6s available in the Aura. One is a new design, I believe, and one is an older engine. Which is which?
#3600 of 20230 Re: Warranties [jeffyscott]
Jul 22, 2007 (5:39 pm)
Just wonder if anyone bought or is planning to buy model X instead of model Y specifically because of a long warranty.
No. I can't drive a warranty. But if multiple cars met my needs in every other respect, then I'd use factors like warranty along with price, dealer convenience etc. to make the final choice. Besides, one can always buy an extended warranty if it's important. So in a way the warranty question becomes a price question.
Besides the Galant, Optima, and Sonata with long warranties, the Verona has a 7-year, 100k transferrable powertrain warranty. And the Elantra (and I think the Spectra also?) has mid-sized room and the long warranty also.
#3601 of 20230 Re: I get confused [urnews]
Jul 22, 2007 (5:40 pm)
Easy to remember: the cheapest Aura model has the older design engine.