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Replying to: akirby (Jul 18, 2007 6:03 pm) The Camcord problems affected what? A tenth of a tenth of a percent of their sales? I had multiple, major headaches with my 96 Taurus. I'll go with Honda's legacy all day. Ford's legacy is tainted bigtime in my house. I'll ever buy another one. Any domestic consideration goes to GM.
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Replying to: mchang (Jul 18, 2007 5:21 pm)
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Replying to: advequityguy (Jul 18, 2007 5:27 pm) The Olds intrigue was actually a good car. My brother has the 3.5L DOHC engine and its quite smooth unlike the 3800 engine. But the Alero is junk you are correct. |
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (Jul 18, 2007 4:02 am) |
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Replying to: mchang (Jul 18, 2007 5:21 pm) |
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Replying to: advequityguy (Jul 18, 2007 5:19 pm) Look at it logically (and this works for any vehicle): You have a one year old model, and it is totaled, stolen, or you just had to sell/trade... the value of your car as determined by most pricing books, an insurance adjuster, used car manager, appraiser or private buyer, etc. will roughly be: The average selling price of a brand new model, less any incentives currently available, minus a percentage (say, 10-30% based on other factors of depreciation such as current demand and past history). So if the new versions of your one year old model are still selling well at close to MSRP with no incentives, your resale value will be just fine. Alternately, if the new models are selling at invoice or less plus have heavy incentives, than the value of your one year old model has to be adjusted down accordingly. In the case of the Tundra, I'd say yes, their resale value won't be great (maybe not horrible, but not great) until Toyota stops the discounting and/or incentives. I'll admit, I think this means that right now, my 2007 Accord with 6k miles is worth slightly less than a 2007 Altima with 6k miles, because an Altima with the same MSRP will cost you more new (less discounts, no factory to dealer incentives that I am aware of). That's OK, because I paid less. However, later this year when the 2008 Accords are out and the deals on the 2007s have dried up, the two 2007 cars should be roughly equal in resale value again. Of course this is all relative... If you bought your car before any discounting/incentives began or just didn't buy right, then you'll be more affected than someone who took advantage of all the discounts/incentives. "Bigh high / sell low" versus "buy low / sell low." Cars are not investments, but if you buy the right car sometimes you can "buy low / sell high."
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Replying to: goodegg (Jul 18, 2007 6:16 pm)
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Replying to: mchang (Jul 18, 2007 5:21 pm) They are both approx $24k plus tax, tag and title. 2007 Altima 3.5SE manual 2007 Mazdaspeed6 Sport manual comments? can i get better deals on either of these cars? Oh mannnn I so want a MazdaSpeed6. But alas, the features and content of the Altima 3.5SE are probably considerably more than that of the "spartan(?)" MazdaSpeed sport. After comparing a bit, maybe I take that back, the sunroof, leather, heated seats, etc are optional on both, and the MS6 actually come standard with the HID and Bose, while the Altima makes you kick down for it. |
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Replying to: batista (Jul 18, 2007 8:56 pm) I had an Intrigue with the 3.5L. It WAS a good car--fun to drive, very good powertrain, nice features. It just didn't hold up well. The Maxx is also pretty well designed--there is an amazing amount of room in it, its very useful, fuel efficient and a good value. Again, durability is a problem--particularly the brakes. But we'll be holding on to that car for a while--it only has 26k. My point here though is that you can't have a discussion about these cars without considering the history of their manufacturer. Some have more to prove than others. And btw--overall first year reliability of the Camry has been above average. And I'm willing to bet it will be for the Accord too. The Fusion has been a pleasant surprise, but I'd still want to see data from the next couple of years before being completely confident. I'd be probably be a little more predisposed to like the Fusion if not for those ridiculous, inaccurate, unethical "challenge" ads they show in which they compare to a loaded Fusion to a stripped 4 cyl Camry and Accord and then claim that the Fusion "wins." Yeah, no kidding.
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