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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: I'm a Former Honda Owner [bhmr59] by andres3
Jul 18, 2007 (3:37 pm)
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Replying to: bhmr59 (Jul 13, 2007 5:51 pm)

It's not all that hard to understand at all. Having to take a car back to the dealer for warranty service a half dozen or so times is easily accomplished when your dealing with a service department that leaves a little to be desired. Also, they never stock any parts, even for the Accord.
 
So thats 2 visits for one thing, and if that one thing goes wrong twice, that's 4 visits already!!! You can reach 6 to 8 visits easy. The reason I still consider HOnda's to be bulletproof are many:
 
1) It was a first year model and not built in Japan
2) The japanese built/assembled Civics we've had have been bulletproof and required no return visits, thats is 0 visits.
3) It was for things like window moldings rippling and wrinkling and a powerseat that functioned but "bumped" a tad bit at the end of its "track." I'm picky.
4) It had two rattle sources to deal with.
 
These are forgiveable offenses; what isn't forgiveable are things that leave you stranded because the car won't start (never happened with any Honda) or things that cost you money you shouldn't have to spend (Honda steps up if something does go wrong, even after warranty).
 
So Hip hip hooray for Honda! But, alas... I did go with a German car, and I might not have if the Accord had been perfect rather than near perfect.
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Re: The ACTUAL subject at hand... [mz6greyghost] by goodegg
Jul 18, 2007 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (Jul 18, 2007 4:02 am)

After discussion over dinner, and reviewing the online offers from a couple different Nissan dealers, we decided to get the 2.5S
 
Excellent choice. I checked it out at the dealer too when buying my weekend beater, an 06 Frontier, a few months ago. The interior is much nicer and I love the looks of the car. Nissan got it right again. They build a great product.
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Re: The problem with the Saturn... [mfletou1] by goodegg
Jul 18, 2007 (4:44 pm)
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Replying to: mfletou1 (Jul 18, 2007 10:11 am)

I think I posted the same kind of comments about Saturn the other day. 2008 will be a big year for GM - the new CTS,Malibu etc. Let's review these cars in 2012 and see what we come up with, but GM's track record for so many years has been above average, which doesn't seem to cut it when there are so many excellents out there.
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Re: Aura owners? [tjc78] by andres3
Jul 18, 2007 (4:52 pm)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Jul 17, 2007 11:29 am)

Yes, but if it comes with equal or better fuel economy why wouldn't you want it?
 
My sentiments exactly!!!
 
Why would I pay X amount of dollars for 200 HP and 30 MPG when I can get (for about the same amount of money) 250 HP and 31 MPG? It's a tough sell.
 
You have to do a X-$$$ equation to get it to be considered by anyone paying attention.
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Re: The problem with the Saturn... [urnews] by andres3
Jul 18, 2007 (5:09 pm)
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Replying to: urnews (Jul 18, 2007 10:47 am)

For me, buying a car is not like buying stocks, but more like a well researched diversified investment.
 
There is traceable accurate history on all makes and models. And history shows certain companies to be quite dependable, reliable, and consistant.
 
This is shown for years and years, and can therefore lead to solid predictions. It is sort of like a batter that hits for a .330+ average 10 years in a row. Do you really think in year 11 he's going to hit under .300?
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Re: Aura owners? [captain2] by advequityguy
Jul 18, 2007 (5:19 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jul 18, 2007 5:33 am)

...So in your opinion, the resale value of the new Tundra is horrible because they almost immediately went to $3000 rebates or 0% financing due to sub-par sales?
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Mazdaspeed6 or Altima 3.5SE manual? by mchang
Jul 18, 2007 (5:21 pm)
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I am torn between these 2 cars and looking for input.
They are both approx $24k plus tax, tag and title.
2007 Altima 3.5SE manual
2007 Mazdaspeed6 Sport manual
 
comments?
can i get better deals on either of these cars?
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Re: The problem with the Saturn... [mfletou1] by advequityguy
Jul 18, 2007 (5:27 pm)
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Replying to: mfletou1 (Jul 18, 2007 10:11 am)

Wow!.....An Olds Intrigue, Olds Alero, and a Malibu Maxx. That's like, the all time trifecta of bad cars. The only thing that's missing is a 2001 Pontiac Aztec or something. I'm not saying all GM cars are crap, but common.
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Re: Mazdaspeed6 or Altima 3.5SE manual? [mchang] by elroy5
Jul 18, 2007 (5:46 pm)
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Replying to: mchang (Jul 18, 2007 5:21 pm)

I am torn between these 2 cars and looking for input.
They are both approx $24k plus tax, tag and title.
2007 Altima 3.5SE manual
2007 Mazdaspeed6 Sport manual

 
That would be a tough one. The Mazda looks better, but the Altima would probably have more room inside. I would go with the Altima, mainly because it's a V6.
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Re: The problem with the Saturn... [andres3] by akirby
Jul 18, 2007 (6:03 pm)
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Replying to: andres3 (Jul 18, 2007 5:09 pm)

History would have said the Fusion would have first year problems and Camcords would not have transmission problems or sludged engines. Not to mention all the 2005 Toyota recalls.
 
So which history do you go by? Pre-2005 or Post-2005? Don't you think post-2005 is a better predictor for 2008?

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