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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan

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#3111 of 18177 Re: The one and only [jeffyscott] by benderofbows

Jul 08, 2007 (4:41 pm)

eBay motors- Honda Accords, sorted by highest mileage, shows 18 cars with over 200,000 miles (excluding typos) out of 305 total for sale. Another 32 cars are 150 to 199k. Another 70 are between 100 and 149k.
 
Nearly 2 out of every 5 Accords currently for sale on eBay have over 100,000 miles. That is right now.
 
There is a 1991 Accord for sale with 341k miles, which appears to run and drive well.

#3112 of 18177 Re: Anyone See these yet? [maxamillion1] by jd10013

Jul 08, 2007 (4:55 pm)

Replying to: maxamillion1 (Jul 08, 2007 10:50 am)
not a bad looking car. need to take the bottom chrome off the front though, and better tail pipe finsihers. other than that, a very nice offering by ford

#3113 of 18177 Re: The one and only [benderofbows] by urnews

Jul 08, 2007 (5:03 pm)

Replying to: benderofbows (Jul 08, 2007 4:41 pm)
It would be my luck to buy one of those eBay Accords with 100,000 miles and have it implode at 100,001, right after I drove it away.
 
I've owned many, many cars in my 49 years of driving but I've never owned one with 100,000 miles. My 2000 Ford Focus station wagon has 93,000 miles on it so it may be the first. That's one of the reasons why we bought a Fusion for our mid-size sedan, good results with the Focus and with a 1997 Ford Thunderbird, 85,000 miles.
 
Even so, Bender, your Accord research was quite enlightening. It would seem at first blush that the Accords take a lickin' and keep on tickin'.

#3114 of 18177 Re: Anyone See these yet? [jd10013] by urnews

Jul 08, 2007 (5:12 pm)

Replying to: jd10013 (Jul 08, 2007 4:55 pm)
It's just a 2008 Fusion, which is the same, appearance-wise, as the 2006 and 2007 Fusions. No styling changes. But the renderings for the 2009 reveal quite a few changes, including the loss of the bottom chrome bars and a new taillight setup.
 
I believe FoMoCo is serious about becoming a stalwart competitor in the mid-size segment again, as is GM. Chrysler doesn't seem to have a serious contender in this category.

#3115 of 18177 Re: The one and only [lilengineerboy] by elroy5

Jul 08, 2007 (5:19 pm)

Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jul 08, 2007 4:35 pm)
In one of the editorials, the author pointed out that you don't "lose control of a car, you give it up." Apparently, so many drivers are giving it up, we will now have a computer to take over.
 
At the moment when the car is not going in the intended direction, it becomes a "loss" of control. Even the most highly skilled racing car drivers "lose it" and you sir, can too. And could one day be saved by a "nanny".

#3116 of 18177 Re: The one and only [lilengineerboy] by kdshapiro

Jul 08, 2007 (5:38 pm)

Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jul 08, 2007 4:35 pm)
If it's you and me on the road, and you give up control of your car, lawsuits and punitive damages (for you) are very expensive if you maim or kill me. Not to mention possible criminal charges. I would think you would want a DSC type system to save your bacon on the road. But I could be wrong. Anyway, in a few years it will become a moot point. If you buy a car after a certain point, you will have a DSC type system. Get used to it. Get a BMW to try out DSC, take a performance course at BMW Spartanburg so you know how it really works.

#3117 of 18177 Re: The one and only [benderofbows] by baggs32

Jul 08, 2007 (6:22 pm)

Replying to: benderofbows (Jul 08, 2007 4:41 pm)
eBay motors- Honda Accords, sorted by highest mileage, shows 18 cars with over 200,000 miles (excluding typos) out of 305 total for sale. Another 32 cars are 150 to 199k. Another 70 are between 100 and 149k.
  
Nearly 2 out of every 5 Accords currently for sale on eBay have over 100,000 miles. That is right now.

 
Not sure what your point is?
 
If you look at MY 2000-2007 for the Accord and Ford Focus, which I assume the Honda fans consider the ultimate unreliable car, both have 14 listed on ebay motors with over 100k miles. I used those years because the Focus has only been out since 2000 and all of the over 200k Accords you mention are from the 80s or early to mid 90s. I'm guessing you could find the same cross section of any brand or model on ebay motors.
 
So are we to believe ebay motors is proof of the Accords assumed reliability leadership? Just asking.
 
A quick check of the Taurus, all years this time, shows one for sale with over 200k miles and 63 more over 100k miles.

#3118 of 18177 Re: The one and only [urnews] by jd10013

Jul 08, 2007 (6:40 pm)

Replying to: urnews (Jul 08, 2007 5:03 pm)
It would be my luck to buy one of those eBay Accords with 100,000 miles and have it implode at 100,001, right after I drove it away
 
sounds like you've bought off ebay before.
 
seriously though, no way on gods green earth I go to ebay for a car. It no surprise over half the accords there are high milage. Its not a testament to the accord durability, (and it is a very durable car) but rather a testimonial to the crap you find on ebay.

#3119 of 18177 Re: The one and only [elroy5] by lilengineerboy

Jul 08, 2007 (6:49 pm)

Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 08, 2007 5:19 pm)
In one of the editorials, the author pointed out that you don't "lose control of a car, you give it up." Apparently, so many drivers are giving it up, we will now have a computer to take over.
 
At the moment when the car is not going in the intended direction, it becomes a "loss" of control. Even the most highly skilled racing car drivers "lose it" and you sir, can too. And could one day be saved by a "nanny".
 
I have to say, I totally disagree with that statement, and that is why so many people refer to it as a "loss of control." These are the same people that refer to crashes as accidents. There is a lack of personal accountability here, one doesn't lose control, they give up control, most often because they lack driving skill. This is an issue with people driving a vehicle beyond their skill level, at which point it would be more effective to activate the brakes on all 4 wheels. There may be times when the car will not follow exactly the wishes of the operator, but that doesn't mean or even imply that the driver has no control over the vehicle.
Suddenly, if they say "oh, it wasn't my fault, I lost control" that makes it all better.

#3120 of 18177 Re: Andres opinion of Sonata [kdshapiro] by backy

Jul 08, 2007 (6:51 pm)

Replying to: kdshapiro (Jul 08, 2007 3:52 pm)
OK, glad there is no misconception; I thought there might be based on your earlier posts in which you said the Sonata had the highest repair costs in its class (not true) and that these collision repair costs were somehow related to the cars' warranties (also not true). We are all copasetic now.

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