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#19452 of 20239 Re: Avalon [jayrider]
Sep 30, 2013 (5:10 pm)
That is the agenda or goal of every for profit magazine. Does that mean they "paid off"?
#19453 of 20239 Re: Avalon [explorerx4]
Sep 30, 2013 (5:13 pm)
Incompetence is different than fraud.
#19454 of 20239 Re: Avalon [akirby]
Sep 30, 2013 (5:33 pm)
#19455 of 20239 Re: Avalon [m6user]
Sep 30, 2013 (5:34 pm)
I never said anything about fraud.
#19456 of 20239 Re: Avalon [explorerx4]
Sep 30, 2013 (5:47 pm)
No, you just insinuated they slant their reviews based on their "agenda".
#19457 of 20239 Re: Avalon [m6user]
Sep 30, 2013 (5:57 pm)
It was common knowledge as far back as the 1960s and '70s.
#19458 of 20239 Re: Avalon [ab348]
Sep 30, 2013 (6:26 pm)
Riiiight.... I disagree with some of the mags from time to time but I have never heard of any of them even investigated for taking bribes or basing their reviews on advertising dollars. Lots of people come in these forums and take cheap, driveby shot at the mags with accusations but I've never seen them cite one single shred of evidence. Now if one wants to say they(the mags) don't know what they are doing or talking about, that's fine as it is an opinion. But it's easy to say something is "well known" or "common knowledge" without having to show any evidence of it. It was probably rumors back then just like it's rumors today. People love conspiracy theories when they don't agree with something.
#19459 of 20239 Re: Avalon [m6user]
Sep 30, 2013 (6:47 pm)
I would probably figure that car mags want to avoid biting the hand that feeds them. Some of the biggest and best advertising is from car companies. Nice glossy pullout pages touting the brand. Draw your own conclusions.
#19460 of 20239 Re: Avalon [backy]
Oct 01, 2013 (4:31 am)
It turns into scrap metal...thus saving the world by recycling. LOL.
#19461 of 20239 Re: Avalon [ab348]
Oct 01, 2013 (4:58 am)
Every car mag gets accused of this in every issue. I have read Car and Driver religiously for decades and always look through the letters to the editor first (called Backfires). There is always a letter from a reader making those accusations, mostly about BMW 3 series and Honda Accords winning the 10 best awards year after year. The magazine addresses the issue openly and I believe they really are impartial.
I have also read MT for many years, and I very much enjoy when their opinion differs from Car and Driver, giving me a different perspective sometimes.
If you really look at the comparo's closely, you will notice that sometimes a car wins by just one point over the winner that was chosen by a competing mag. To me it just adds choices. I just add the car to my list of ones to consider, giving me more options when it comes time to choose and sign that buyers order.