Last post on Dec 08, 2013 at 7:45 PM
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#19286 of 20223 Re: Backing up [suydam]
Sep 19, 2013 (12:01 pm)
Not to mention that Honda really knocked one out of the park on styling this time to. Every time I see one of the EX-L V6 or Sport Models I start to drool just a tiny bit. It's not just the styling. My car has great styling. It is the way Honda made the Accord look like it was carved from one block, and the shape reminds me most of the best looking Accords, the 1989 - 1994. It's like Honda returned to the original recipe, instead of the Buick they made in 03 and 04. They looked like jelly beans.
#19287 of 20223 Re: Backing up [cski]
Sep 19, 2013 (1:52 pm)
I think the Civic looks better than the Accord. I would like them to reverse the styling, Civic midsized and Accord compact. Just me and Honda probably knows best.
#19288 of 20223 Re: Backing up [cski]
Sep 19, 2013 (2:14 pm)
One thing that bugs me about the Accord 4 cyl models is the empty left side exhaust cutout. An obvious cost saving move.
#19289 of 20223 Re: Backing up [explorerx4]
Sep 19, 2013 (4:26 pm)
I do like the dual exhausts on the Altima. But I drive on the inside of the car and there I think the Accord has the edge.
#19290 of 20223 Re: Backing up [explorerx4]
Sep 20, 2013 (3:38 am)
OMG! It bugs me too!!! I complained about the empty exhaust cutout a few months back. Yes, it is a cost saving move.
That is why I mentioned the EX-L V6 and the Sport as the two specific models that I really like. Both have dual pipes.
The Optima has dual exhaust AND fog lights on every model, from the LX to the SX-L, one of the reasons I was drawn to it.
All Accords offer standard alloy rims, which are 16" like most other competitors.
I remember when almost all Honda products had hubcaps, even sporty offerings. For example, my girlfriends '94 Acura Integra 2 door V-Tech which was loaded (even the wing and sunroof) except for alloys.
Similarly, the top of the line Civic EX had hubcaps too. You had too buy an Si to get them. It might not be a big deal to some, but I hate anything on my wheels that can fall off!
Sep 20, 2013 (7:17 am)
The Hyundai Sonatas have some for THE best looking OE wheels out there, especially the Turbo and Ltd. versions
#19292 of 20223 Re: Blind spot monitor lack [igozoomzoom]
Sep 20, 2013 (7:23 am)
Are you aware that the CX-9 is a Ford Edge platform from the firewall forward? Meaning the powertrain (3.7 liter V6 and Aisin 6 speed Auto)and the rest of the powertrain is Ford. I think it is the same 3.7 in the Mustang, albeit with different tuning in this application.
Mazda added it's own frame in the rear, which is why there is no resemblance.
For the most part it is getting harder and harder to spot platform sharing, which is a good thing. Particularly after the thinly veiled GM models in fairly recent memory, although the current Lincoln MK-Z and MK-X models are obviously Ford Fusion and Edge products. I do love the new MK-Z's looks. It looks like the bat-mobile, but is it $6000 more for a grill and bumper treatment?
I thought the CX-9 was pure blood Japanese.
#19293 of 20223 Re: Blind spot monitor lack [cski]
Sep 20, 2013 (8:22 am)
The 3.5 and 3.7L V6s that Mazda uses started out as Ford engines but Mazda is now producing their own versions in their own plants in Japan. The Aisin tranny is not a Ford product and has never been used in the Edge - it has always used the 6F50 Ford/GM tranny.
The new MKZ is not "obviously" a Fusion product - they share no sheet metal. The MKZ offers many upgrades over the Fusion - 3.7L V6, LED adaptive headlamps, electronically controlled suspension, cooled seats, THX audio, push button transmission, electric telescoping wheel, auto-trunk opening/closing, real wood trim, better leather, etc. etc.
That's a bit more than a "grille and bumper" treatment.
#19294 of 20223 Re: Blind spot monitor lack [akirby]
Sep 20, 2013 (1:15 pm)
"The new MKZ is not "obviously" a Fusion product - they share no sheet metal. The MKZ offers many upgrades over the Fusion - 3.7L V6, LED adaptive headlamps, electronically controlled suspension, cooled seats, THX audio, push button transmission, electric telescoping wheel, auto-trunk opening/closing, real wood trim, better leather, etc. etc."
"That's a bit more than a "grille and bumper" treatment"
Well kirby, I am not convinced, and neither is Car & Driver
They said the same thing I did, options or not. I have seen the inside and it looks very similar. The following is excerpts from September C/D page 81.
"Interior design diverges from the Fusion's, but material and build quality aren't commensurate with the up-charge"
"This isn't a strategy that works, Just ask Mercury"
and lastly, their summary of the model: "even with some obvious changes, it's too much like a Ford Fusion"
(Hybrid model tested; but I left out all references to the powertrain to be fair).
They didn't say it was a bad car! They said that you should probably just buy a Fusion, which is exactly what you bought. It's a nice car.
Also, I think it looks awesome, but I don't see many on the road. I do see a lot of Fusions....the Titanium looks great. How about a Fusion SHO!
#19295 of 20223 Re: Rims [kyrpto]
Sep 20, 2013 (4:08 pm)
The endless shilling for the Sonata is really getting tired, krypto.