Last post on Dec 12, 2013 at 7:56 PM
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#19179 of 20241 Re: Sonatas [ab348]
Sep 03, 2013 (3:06 am)
Agreed. Seems like krypto is trying to move the remaining 2013 Sonata's on the lot to make room for the refreshed 2014 units due in showrooms in about 45 days.
He is probably right about there being legitimate deals right now, but I would wait 2 months and pick one up after the dealer is stuffed with 2014's and is truly in more desperate need of moving those pesky last 2013's with 2010 styling.
Also, both Korean sibling's will be completely redesigned for 2015.
See picture here: http://wolescar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/2015-hyundai-sonata-concept-pictu- - res.jpg
#19180 of 20241 Re: Sonatas [ab348]
Sep 03, 2013 (4:01 am)
I just checked the USAA website on the new Hyundai Sonata. The GLS is selling for 17,808 (4,182 off msrp) and the limited is selling for 21,231 (5,409 off msrp). An additional $500 is offered for USAA members. I think cski is accurate. I've read his posts for a long time and he seems to know his cars and is honest.
#19181 of 20241 Re: Sonatas [wayne21]
Sep 03, 2013 (6:19 am)
Thank you very much Wayne.
A Sonata GLS for 17.8 and a Limited for $21.2? OMG!
You know, across the North, a tale is told ....... Called "The last".
"Christmas finally over, consumers rest at long last. With their financial reserves drained, they collapse, warmed by the glow of their freshly minted I-pads. Miles away, at the same time, a cold mist descends, wind howling through the barren trees. The lot - bleak, cold; without compassion. Men huddle over a dwindling fire, fueled by once fresh brochures in a highway barrel. It is their only warmth, physical, and psychological. ALL they need one more sale, just one more shot to reach their goal. How close they were! only to be left abandoned!
Wait! a man appears in the distance. Dare I say a customer? A be-back fulfilling his promise to return? Is it an illusion across a cold barren wasteland of forgotten Sonata's?
There is a fable, a legend if you will, of one who returns in 5 years time to pick the flesh of the helpless. One who only deals with the manager, who gets what he wants, bringing him to his knees. Making him Beg for the sale. One last unit.....
Moral of the story? Catch the dealer at their weakest, bring them to their knees, and bask in the glow of your good fortune by owning that last unit, moved to reach some sales goal. Lost, but not forgotten."
#19182 of 20241 Re: Sonatas [cski]
Sep 03, 2013 (7:30 am)
You're welcome, cski. I always know that when I read something from you that it is legitimate.
The sonatas are a GREAT buy. The ONLY reason I have ruled it out is the low passenger seat. I know you raised yours in your optima and my neighbor did the same thing to his (after I told him about your post discussing others raising the passenger seat - he put 2 inch shims under his), but I am hesitant to do that because if I was ever in an accident I can hear the insurance company claiming the car was modified from original design and using that as a reason to dispute a claim.
#19183 of 20241 Re: Sonatas [wayne21]
Sep 03, 2013 (12:42 pm)
I sat in my passenger seat yesterday to clean the windshield and it is a damn confining place to be. That combined with the low seating position and the dash canted toward the driver leaves the passenger the impression that there is a lack of space. It can be a deal killer, especially when the better half decides that she can't stand sitting there. Fortunately for me, this car is all mine, and I DON'T HAVE TO SIT THERE.
#19184 of 20241 Re: Sonatas [wayne21]
Sep 03, 2013 (1:23 pm)
The hip point on the Sonata is an issue with me as well. Have to drop into the seat. When I first looked at my Prius, I was surprised at how the seat height was raised to a perfect level. Didn't expect that and after 3 years it has proven to be just right. Easy in and easy out.
Sep 03, 2013 (3:48 pm)
I actually got $2,900 off msrp AND 0% financing for 60 months back on June 10th.
Got $18K for my 2011 Sonata on the trade.
Toyota almost NEVER gives 0% on their Camry hybrids.
The Prius is an appliance, a poor excuse for a driver's car while the HSH drives great, holds a ton of stuff, and will get in the mid-forties.
#19186 of 20241 Re: Accord(s) Test Drive - TheGraduate perspective [cski]
Sep 04, 2013 (6:11 am)
+++That is one big vehicle. I know it claims to have 25 mpg highway, which is great for a 5800 lb truck. There is a new three truck comparo in the September C&D featuring the usual three players.+++
The model I've looked at has roughly a 5100lb curb weight, and at 75mph on I-65 where I test drove it, averaged 23mpg on various hills here in Birmingham, at the based of the App. Mntns.
+++Though the RAM 1500 is off topic, the Pentastar 3.6 liter V6 isn't, as it is offered in the Chrysler 200, which is a mid size sedan. Chrysler has really stepped up to the plate with this powertrain. It is deployed all throughout their model lineup, from the Jeep Wrangler and the Grand Cherokee to the to the Charger, Challenger, Ram, Town and Country, Avenger, etc.+++
I read an article yesterday on how the entire Chrysler V6 family is now Pentastar based other than the diesel motors, with the 3.2 and 3.6 here in the states, and the 3.0 seen in Europe.
#19187 of 20241 Re: Accord(s) Test Drive - TheGraduate perspective [cski]
Sep 04, 2013 (6:16 am)
(((In keeping with that thought, I think the Regal and the Verano are the most likely sedans to take a few sales from the mid size segment. I would be pleased to own a Regal GS. )))
Neither of these cars offered space or fuel efficiency relative to their mpg and power ratings. Yes, I'm shopping MPG while also shopping for a truck or big-engined midsizer. The Verano was incredibly small and cramped "feeling" inside, although it was very well-trimmed even in it's most basic form, which I have actually test driven. The sticker was somewhere around $24k. However, my fiance and I have a basic rule for the car being "roomy enough;" if she can sit behind me where I'd have the seat set, the car is good. It means as a party of four, we could travel anywhere in comfort. The Verano nor the Regal pass this test.
I want the best power/size/mpg ratio I can find, and the Buicks don't really meet that demand.
As for the LaCrosse, sorry, but that's a car for my parents. A nice car, but not something that makes me excited. I'd rather just keep my car. It's boring AND paid off.
#19188 of 20241 Re: June 10th [kyrpto]
Sep 04, 2013 (6:28 am)
++The Prius is an appliance, a poor excuse for a driver's car while the HSH drives great++
Both are poor excuses for "driver's cars."