Last post on Dec 12, 2013 at 7:56 PM
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#19043 of 20241 Re: CAFE, not a Restaurant [igozoomzoom]
Aug 13, 2013 (2:02 pm)
I was curious so I did a little research and found out that there was a recall in 2004 covering mostly vehicles with. v6 engines: the Acura MDX and TL, the v6 Accord, and the Odyssey and Pilot. 4 cyl engines were not affected, which would be all Civics and most Accords. Since your dads Accord was a 4 cyl it behaved the way we expect most Hondas to: dependable and long-lasting.
#19044 of 20241 Re: 2012 Optima- When to change Wiper Blades? [cski]
Aug 13, 2013 (2:05 pm)
I replace mine when they start streaking or in the fall with OEM blades from the Ford dealer. Usually about $20 a pair.
One interesting feature some of them have is a plastic dot on then that turns yellow when it's time to replace them.
If they are working ok and I'm at the dealer for service, I just peel off the dot so the service writer doesn't tell me they need replacing.
#19045 of 20241 Re: Truth about cars on Camry [akirby]
Aug 13, 2013 (2:25 pm)
I'm sure it was just a typo, but the problem rate is out of 100, not 1000, a discrepancy of a factor of 10! One way to put it is that the most reliable cars still have less than 1/2 as many problems as the poor reliability brands. That's a huge massive difference in my honest opinion.
The more reliable comes off as an attempt at quality, the less reliable comes off as an attempt to rip off the consumer.
JD Power only measures reliability of nearly new cars. Add another 3 years to those cars and suddenly the problem rates skyrocket by another factor of 10 in those problem vehicles. Get back to me when JD Powers measures 6 or 9 year old vehicles.
#19046 of 20241 Re: CAFE, not a Restaurant [igozoomzoom]
Aug 13, 2013 (2:49 pm)
I was an '03 V6/5AT Accord Coupe owner and had transmission troubles past the 36K mile mark and warranty period. It is simply not true that you had to raise sheer hell. If you had done a service or two at the dealer (showing good maintenance history that they could easily verify), you could bring your car in on a Monday, get a loaner free of charge, and they'd install a new transmission assembly replacement and have you on your way Wednesday afternoon.
And by the way, they warrantied most of those either another 36K or to 100K miles.
#19047 of 20241 Re: 2012 Optima- When to change Wiper Blades? [cski]
Aug 13, 2013 (3:46 pm)
Fusion is going on a road trip.
Moving our college age kid, senior year, out to school 800 miles one way.
We are taking 2 vehicles, kid's '04 Escape and the '13 Fusion.
My sister lives about halfway there on the route we would take anyway and I am stopping to pick up a table and 4 chairs she got cheap at a tag sale.
I have to drive the Escape to pick it up. That sucker is noisy on the highway.
Wife and daughter get to drive the Fusion and it will get much better mileage.
#19048 of 20241 Re: CAFE, not a Restaurant [andres3]
Aug 13, 2013 (4:13 pm)
They had a class action suit on the transmissions and extended the warranty to 100k on all of them - 4 and 6 cyl. My 4 cyl accord had 3 rebuilt transmission put in it and each time they put in a new one they gave a 3/36 warranty on it. As for the civic hybrid with the CVT - it was a disaster. That's my fear of buying an accord - long history of transmission problems and the only cvt I'm aware of was their civic hybrid. IDK if they've gotten it together or not with the transmissions. I forgot that I'd driven one months ago. I forgot that it was an accord as my memory was on the salesman with the dollar store cologne, slicked back oily hair, and his infinite wisdom on all subjects - albeit it was obvious he was poorly educated. I couldn't get away fast enough. But, I do remember experiencing what motortrend mentioned on their first drive and wind noise above my ear:
The only complaint is that it's a little jerky at parking lot speeds; something we hope is unique to our pre-production test cars.
I've read quite a few blogs on the VCM and using oil seems to be a frequent complaint. For whatever reason, it seems cylinder #3 gets soaked with oil. I think Honda, like all manufacturers, has its share of problems. What keeps their value up is the incredibly low fleet number sales - about 1 percent - which is very small compared to other companies. Three years down the road if you want to sell your car you have to compete with the fleet sales and that's where Honda really shines - very few fleet sales to compete with.
#19049 of 20241 Re: CAFE, not a Restaurant [wayne21]
Aug 13, 2013 (4:31 pm)
The pre 2006 civic hybrids had some problems with the CVT, but I don't believe that there have been an unusually large number post 2006. And all CVT technology has greatly improved for all models. But if it makes you nervous buy something else. All auto guides I have seen have no hesitation recommending cars with CVT ( some of them may not like how they drive but that's another and more subjective matter) .
#19050 of 20241 Re: Truth about cars on Camry [andres3]
Aug 13, 2013 (6:04 pm)
First - that index DOES measure 3 yr old cars, not new ones. You're thinking of initial reliability - different measurement than the dependability study.
And yes that was a math error. Redoing the math says the difference between 3rd place and 27th place on a single vehicle over 3 years is 2 problems instead of one 40% of the time.
That's pretty close in my book and wouldn't sway me away from something I liked. Or are you just looking for an excuse to bash Detroit?
#19051 of 20241 question on new sonata suspension
Aug 13, 2013 (6:08 pm)
Just got a new Sonata today- I am noticing a really rough ride- feeling every bump on the road- is there a "break-in" period for suspensions, tires and shocks?
#19052 of 20241 Re: question on new sonata suspension [ricovanian]
Aug 13, 2013 (6:14 pm)
Check the tire pressure. They overinflate them for shipment and sometimes the dealer forgets to lower it for delivery.