Last post on Dec 10, 2013 at 5:02 PM
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#19035 of 20239 Re: Mazda 6 Grand Touring [nyccarguy]
Aug 13, 2013 (6:02 am)
I have yet to see one of the road, but the closest Mazda dealer is 45 miles away from me....and another one about 50 miles in the other direction. I know all too well because I bought my last Mazda (2012 CX-9) from one but have it serviced at the other because they're faster and more convenient.
Actually, I was at my servicing dealer yesterday with the CX-9. Quick sidebar- If you ever take your car thru an automatic car wash and you have Rain-sensing wipers, MAKE sure that they are OFF!!! The Service Manager was kind enough to replace both wiper arms under Warranty....
While they were replacing the wiper arms, I went to the showroom and didn't see a single salesman...but literally 10 seconds later, three were almost running from different directions to pounce! I announced loudly, "I'm just a Service Customer killing time....and two of them vanished, but one came over to chit-chat. We were less than 20 seconds into a conversation when I realized he was actually going to try the "Gee, your car's in for service? Maybe it's tiime to think about a new one?" But I stooped him cold and said, it's a 2012 CX-9 GT wih 12k miles on it getting an oil change" and he went away....I didn't feel the need to share my wiper issue...
But then I spotted a friendly looking young fellow who hadn't jumped me and he smiled so I walked into his little glass cubicle/office. I asked him when they expected the 2014 Mazda3 to show up and he said they'd probably get a 'show' car late this month that was only for display. Then the inventory cars start arriving in late Sept.
I also asked why they didn't have a new Mazda6 on the showroom floor (but wasted spacce with a Mazda2) and he said that every single one they've put in the showroom didn't last 48 hours before it was sold and they had to deal with getting it out and replacing the empty spot....then he said all of the Touring and Grand Touring Mazda6 models they get are selling in less than a week. He sold two last week while they were still on the car hauler. The Sport sells at a liittle slower rate, but still don't sit more than two weeks or so at most!
And Mazda has stated that they're building them and loading them on ships as quickly as they can. The CX-5 SUV has been exceeded all expectations in terms of sales, so they're trying to build and ship them as fast as possible, too...
Mazda's goal for the 2013 calendar year (for the 2014 model) was 30,000 units. At the end of July, they're at 25,115 so they'll hit their target no problem. I had originally expected them to sell 60k+ next year, which they might, but the 2014 Mazda3 will steal some of would-be 6 buyers when it shows up. It has the looks, moves and features on the Mazda6, like a 7/8 version of the larger car. I'm very anxious to see and drive the 2014 Mazda3 s 5-door which will have the same 2.5L SkyActive 184hp engine as the Mazda6 but weigh in at 500lbs less...with the 6AT, it is still expected to hit 60mph in 7.2 seconds....Zoom, zoom!
#19036 of 20239 Re: 2012 Optima- When to change Wiper Blades? [cski]
Aug 13, 2013 (6:31 am)
You've had your blades through one full summer. and 1/2 of another. Does your car sit outside at home or at work? That ages the blades the most.
I used Rain-X and had it start streaking on my windshield. Tried to remove it. But I think it has deteriorated my blades along with sun. I usually replace blades with ANCO blades from Walmart every year on both cars.
#19037 of 20239 Re: personally... [cski]
Aug 13, 2013 (9:26 am)
Currently drive a Civic, but am considering going back to an accord sometime after the 2014s come out - that's why I've been watching this thread - lots of good info. Have owned a number of accords in the past - all great cars that were low maintenance and always provided dependable transportation - nothing controversial to report.
Aug 13, 2013 (10:45 am)
On a recent 100 mi hwy trip between Louisville and Cincinnati in our 2013 Accord CVT, we got 36.8 mpg with AC on, 65-75 mph. Even hit some traffic. That's about 7 mpg more than we'd get with our 2008 Accord on a trip like this.
#19039 of 20239 Re: 2012 Optima- When to change Wiper Blades? [cski]
Aug 13, 2013 (10:46 am)
You should be looking to replace wiper blades around once a year. I usually wait until they streak badly. If you take a soft rag with rubbing alcohol and slide it up and down the edge you will clean off an amazing amount of dirt. That can make even newer blades work poorly. It can refresh your older ones as well.
#19040 of 20239 Re: hwy mpg Accord [benjaminh]
Aug 13, 2013 (11:55 am)
>Louisville and Cincinnati in our 2013 Accord CVT
Have you experienced any problems with your CVT? That has been one of the cars I'm watching for the replacement, midsized or smaller, for two cars I have.
#19041 of 20239 Re: CAFE, not a Restaurant [wayne21]
Aug 13, 2013 (1:26 pm)
"I think Honda makes great engines - although they seem to be having problems with the 6 cyl VCMs burning oil - but they have never really made a great transmission. Historically, this has been the weak point in Hondas - the transmissions."
That's not exactly true. The 3-speed and 4-speed versions of the Hondamatic served hundreds of thousands very well for many miles! Especially the Accords thru 1997 and Civic at least thru 2000. The '86-'89 Accords (LXi models, in particular) were known for shifting VERY firmly (in cold weather, it might jar your teeth during a full-throttle downshift) but they were still rock solid. The '86-'87 LXi and '85.5-'87 Prelude Si were the ones that would throw you thru the windshield with each shift, but the '88-'89 LXi wasn't nearly as abrupt even though it had an extra 10hp (120hp total). My theory is that they didn't adequately adjust or tweak the transmission as the Accord (and 'Lude) engines gained hefty bumps in power during those years.
Since 2000-ish, the 5-speed automatic has been a nightmare from hell....and the V6/5AT combo in any Honda/Acura was akin to playing Russin Roulette! I have a cousin who works for North American Honda HQ in Torrance, CA. I know for a fact that the conservative estimate for the total number of A/T failures on 2000-2005 models is AT LEAST 1.1 million!!! And Honda only warrantied 640k of those....
Meanwhile, my dad's 2004 Accord LX 2.4L/5AT just passed the 240k mark and the original 5AT still shifts like new....
I was a Honda/Acura devotee for 17 years and never foresee owning another one for several reasons, one being the way they ignored the massive A/T failures! Only the owners who were willing to raise sheer HELL got warranty replacements past the 36k warranty...Soichiro Honda would roll over in his grave or urn or whatever he's in.....
#19042 of 20239 Re: hwy mpg Accord [imidazol97]
Aug 13, 2013 (1:42 pm)
We've had ours for 6 months now and absolutely love it. Quiet, smooth, and wonderful gas mileage. I haven't owned a 2000s era Honda but I know lots of people who have and have had great experiences with them. They get very high ratings from Consumer Reports too. I wasn't worried at all about reliability; I wanted a car that would also have a lot of nice features, which Honda didn't have much of in the 2000s. They sure do now.
#19043 of 20239 Re: CAFE, not a Restaurant [igozoomzoom]
Aug 13, 2013 (2:02 pm)
I was curious so I did a little research and found out that there was a recall in 2004 covering mostly vehicles with. v6 engines: the Acura MDX and TL, the v6 Accord, and the Odyssey and Pilot. 4 cyl engines were not affected, which would be all Civics and most Accords. Since your dads Accord was a 4 cyl it behaved the way we expect most Hondas to: dependable and long-lasting.
#19044 of 20239 Re: 2012 Optima- When to change Wiper Blades? [cski]
Aug 13, 2013 (2:05 pm)
I replace mine when they start streaking or in the fall with OEM blades from the Ford dealer. Usually about $20 a pair.
One interesting feature some of them have is a plastic dot on then that turns yellow when it's time to replace them.
If they are working ok and I'm at the dealer for service, I just peel off the dot so the service writer doesn't tell me they need replacing.