Last post on Dec 10, 2013 at 5:02 PM
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#18477 of 20239 Re: My New 2014 Mazda6 [way2funmazda]
Jun 29, 2013 (4:20 pm)
Congrats on your new 6. I agree that it is shocking that there is virtually no buzz over on the Madza6 forums about the new 2014. So much for a people that are supposed to be a little more "enthusiust", you'd think there would be more talk about it. Love the car and my wife's 6 will be needing replacing in about a year and the new 6 will be top on our looksee list. I kind of hoping they have an improvement in the infotainment/nav system when they debut the 2015 Mazda6. The current tomtom based nav and the small(relatively) screen are not quite up to par with other midsize comps. But even if they don't improve that, it will still be #1 on the list. We will actually look at the new 3 as well as that has grown a little bit to be almost the same size(interior wise) as our 2007 Mazda6 and that has never proven to be too small for us.
Good luck on Mazdas!
#18478 of 20239 Re: My New 2014 Mazda6 [way2funmazda]
Jun 29, 2013 (8:05 pm)
I think there is a large loyalty with existing brands.
I'm just basing this off my my personal experience with people I work with. The lady with a camry...purchased another camry...The guy with the 15 year old Accord wants another accord. It doesn't matter that 15 years has seen a huge shift in vehicles; he doesn't even want to test drive to compare competing models...just go with what he knows. The VW guy bought a new VW (Passat TDI...pretty nice), the Hyundai lady is looking at a new Hyundai...
btw, that 15 year old Accord has horrible NVH and power compared to anything new.
#18479 of 20239 Re: My New 2014 Mazda6 [way2funmazda]
Jun 30, 2013 (6:29 am)
It's a gorgeous car, fantastically engineered from the ground up, quick (o to 60 in 7 seconds w/ the automatic), and drives like a sports car.
If it had been available when I bought my Optima, I might have bought it. Really.
#18480 of 20239 Re: My New 2014 Mazda6 [ivan_99]
Jun 30, 2013 (6:48 am)
It is kind of funny that we ended back to Mazda. Since we've been married, a long time now, we've owned a Subaru, 2 Hondas, Nissan and 2 Mazdas. I don't think you can consider us that brand loyal. But what really got me was the recent article in Consumer's Report April 2013 Car Issue that said the 3 most reliable car brands in order was Lexus, Subaru and Mazda. That kind of sealed it for me along with the first hand reliability experience of my old Pro5. We looked at so many brands this past year, that my wife was starting to dread the weekends. I love looking at cars and the whole test drive experience (dealerships must have hated me). We looked at Kia Optima Forte and Souls, Hyundai Sonata Elantras and Velosters, Honda CR-V Accord Civic Fit, Nissan Altima Cube, Toyota Prius Matrix and Mazda 3's 6's and Cx-5. As you can see, we were all over the board.
We ended up with the mid-level 6, no navigation package. She really wanted a sunroof, but unfortunately could not get it at that trim level. Almost a problem, but didn't want to move up to the next level at a $5,000 jump in cost since it wasn't worth it to us. Although the touch screen is small compared to other makes, simply having a back up camera screen is amazing since we never had one in any of our older cars. Image is very clear and surprisingly works well in dim light. The month before we bought the 6, we were given a Garmin Nuvi with the lane assist function and grew to really like the unit. Not having the built in Tom Tom unit in the 6 was not a big deal to us.
So far we love the car both for its performance and the incredible way it looks. Actually hit 37mpg on the highway to NC last weekend (not even broken in yet). Note that this was calculated and not an instantaneous reading. City driving gets about 29mpg, but I think my wife takes the Zoom Zoom thing to heart!
#18481 of 20239 Re: My New 2014 Mazda6 [way2funmazda]
Jun 30, 2013 (9:58 am)
I'd be interested in how you find the "pleather" seats after you've experienced them for awhile. Do they breath at all or do you stick to them? Do you think they will hold up as well as cloth or leather? I don't really care about sunroofs at all and I hate it that manufacturers package them with other items that I do want and can't get with also getting the sunroof.
#18482 of 20239 Re: My New 2014 Mazda6 [m6user]
Jun 30, 2013 (12:03 pm)
Off topic a bit, also looked closely at the Ford Fusion, very impressed, Escape, Focus and C-Max.
Regarding our black pleather, I was pushing for the ivory color (lighter and not as heat absorbent), but wife didn't like the color. Since they are 100% synthetic, I would expect that it could be easily washed and wear well (I hope). So far, they seem to be holding up, but of course the car is still new. They seating surfaces don't seem to get as hot as leather and appear to be more sticky and not as slippery as leather. I never liked the feel of sliding out of your seat when braking. These almost feel like a brushed suede or micro fiber. I can tell you that they don't breathe as well as cloth, since I still feel like I stick to them during our humid VA summers, especially with shorts and t-shirts. I know that leather that is not treated often eventually dries out in time and cracks along the bolsters. I guess time will tell if it holds up.....
#18483 of 20239 Re: My New 2014 Mazda6 [way2funmazda]
Jun 30, 2013 (1:17 pm)
I do like leather. I had two cars recently with leather and one I kept 13 years and the other 10 years. Both driver seats looked very good but had some dirty areas of wear. The rest of the seats were basically like new. I cleaned and put leather treatment on about twice a year for the first 5-6 years and then maybe once a year until the last couple of years of ownership and then lost interest. But I guess the work I did early on kept them in decent enough shape that they lasted through the last few years with little upkeep. I don't find myself sliding out of the seats unless it's a panic stop and then that's what the seat is for I reckon.
I'm not really a fan of the VW "pleather" as it seems to feel rubbery to me. Maybe after some use it smooths out some but it seemed like they could be very sticky in the summer. Are you familiar with the VW stuff and how it compares to the Mazda? I guess I just need to get to a Mazda dealer and check those seats out. I do wish you could get the touring version with cloth seats though.
#18484 of 20239 stopped at a light today next to a new Fusion
Jun 30, 2013 (6:22 pm)
and pointed it out to my wife. She was not at all impressed or intrigued by it. Did not seem to think it was bigger than my 2005 Accord, though I promised her it was.
Jun 30, 2013 (6:22 pm)
Brand Loyalty is very interesting when it comes to cars. If there's nothing out there that WOWs me when the lease is up on my 328xi next September, I'm most likely going to buy something that's reasonably priced and that's built well enough for me to drive for the next 10 years & 150 - 200K or so miles.
Besides my BMW, I've got a 2001 Honda Prelude Type SH (bought new in April 2002) with 149K+ on the clock and my wife's 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation (bought new in May 2011) with over 37K on the odometer. If I end up shopping in the Mid Sized Sedans category, I might take a look at the Mazda 6, but would most likely end up with an Accord Sport. Although I do with Honda would offer a sunroof & lane watch with the Sport. I just know what makes Hondas "tick" and how they are supposed to drive. The dealer where I service the Pilot (Honda of Westport, CT) couldn't be better. I don't want to write anything else off before a test drive, but this does seem inevitable.
#18486 of 20239 Re: Brand Loyalty [nyccarguy]
Jun 30, 2013 (6:30 pm)
I don't really have any. I just buy what I like that fits the needs at the time. Of course, reputation is a factor to consider, as is prior experience. but no way am I just going to buy a certain brand, just because that is what I always get.
I have 2 Acuras at the moment (down from 3 as of a week ago!), but when we were looking to replace the Odyssey last year, I was never expecting to get another Honda product. Just ended up being what the wife wanted (and good thing she still loves it, and goes out of her way to mention it quite often, because my wallet still hurts...). the other one is my son's TL that was a family "inheritance" .
when he finally gets a job and can get a new car, it could be another Acura (no chance a Honda). But, quite possibly not. And the Integra was just a used car I happened to stumble upon (not at all planned)