Last post on Dec 05, 2013 at 4:17 PM
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#18323 of 20193 Re: "Almost" mid size Dodge Dart sales woes [cski]
Jun 05, 2013 (9:20 am)
So, Dodge... offer a 100k warranty, nix the flower, and add 25 hp!!! Easy to fix!
A 100k warranty and a different name would go a very long way.....most of the target market has no knowledge of the original Dart, so there's no equity or value in the name. It just sounds dumb without the background info....
Resurrecting names from historical models is rarely a wise idea, in my opinion. The Dodge Dart (and Plymouth Valiant) weren't all that great, they just didn't suck as much as their domestic competitors at the time. The Slant-Six engine used in most Darts and Valiants is responsible for most fond memories of the old compacts...
And resurrecting names from models that sucked in recent history is the kiss of death! (See 2010-present Ford Taurus for more info). Why not change the Focus to Pinto and Fusion to Granada while they're at it?
#18324 of 20193 Re: "Almost" mid size Dodge Dart sales woes [igozoomzoom]
Jun 06, 2013 (4:52 am)
Lol.Calling the Focus a Pinto!!! Lmao. Toyota blew it the other way around though, by introducing their new two door, rear drive FR-S sports car as a Scion, instead of a Toyota Celica. Scion already has the TC! Almost everyone remembers the Celica, and an all wheel drive turbo model could have been called the GT-S.
#18325 of 20193 Re: "Almost" mid size Dodge Dart sales woes [igozoomzoom]
Jun 06, 2013 (5:30 am)
The new Fusion is more like the Maverick than the Granada, my first car was a Granada, and it was a total POS that gave new meaning to "Fix Or Repair Daily"! My new Fusion is nothing like that, it's more like a mini Mustang, just like the Maverick was way back when!
#18326 of 20193 Re: "Almost" mid size Dodge Dart sales woes [puppybone69]
Jun 06, 2013 (10:02 am)
Well, I got stuck driving my moms Reliant K Wagon (1983 model). It had "Rich Corinthian Vinyl" in burgundy of course. It had a 2.2 liter 4 banger (and boy did it have NVH), a 3 speed slushbox, but to it's credit it didn't break down, the A/C worked, and the vinyl was so thick that it never tore or wore down. Actually, I bet the material would last 1000 years in a landfill....which of course is bad. Lol.
#18327 of 20193 Edmunds "Batman" Optima model photos!
Jun 06, 2013 (12:07 pm)
I can't believe this. I am not a Batman fan, so I guess this Optima was used in one of the movies.
Check out pictures starting at 29 and 30.
I know pretty much everything about every 2011- and up Optima made, but I was unaware about an Edmunds.com "Batman" trim package. I would of course like more information on this model. Is it bulletproof? Does it have an afterburner? Do I get a suit with it? The utility belt with the grappling hook would be nice!
#18328 of 20193 Re: Edmunds "Batman" Optima model photos! [cski]
by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST
Jun 06, 2013 (12:40 pm)
For those of you looking, it starts at about pic #45.
And it's not OUR "Batman" trim package. If it were, I'd be asking for a ride in it, or at least a pic next to it, for sure.
#18329 of 20193 Re: Edmunds "Batman" Optima model photos! [kirstie_h]
Jun 07, 2013 (4:12 am)
Point taken Kristie, but I have never seen these pictures on another official automobile publication!
The pictures are on exactly these pages:
29, 30, 34, 45, 49, 50 and 51. I looked through all 167 so my information would be accurate.
There is a bat-wing embroidered in the seat back on 29, and then a grill shot on page 30, etc.
#18330 of 20193 Re: Mazda 6 - no heated steering wheel? [mani_o]
Jun 07, 2013 (8:46 am)
I'm a long time Accord owner, and I recommend that car. I've owned a 2002 LX, a 2008 EXL navi, and now a 2013 EXL navi. Wow I love the new car. Just great. CVT is excellent imho, and so I wouldn't have worries there.
The Accord got much higher safety ratings in the small offset collision test than the Camry, which did not pass.
Check out at the 2 minute mark, when the Head of the Insurance Institute of America says: "Both of these Toyotas earned poor crash ratings. Toyota engineers have a lot of work to do to catch up with their competitors."
#18331 of 20193 Re: Edmunds "Batman" Optima model photos! [cski]
Jun 07, 2013 (11:14 am)
Kia teamed up with DC Comics and made "super hero" versions of Optima and they tour around to bring attention to a charity that DC is involved with involving hunger in Africa. I went to the car show in Atlanta a few months back and the Batman and Superman Optimas were on display in the Kia exhibit.
#18332 of 20193 2013 Altima 2.5SV
Jun 07, 2013 (11:26 am)
I bought a new Altima 2 weeks ago. I thought I was going to buy a new Accord LX; but, the dealer didn't want to deal. Not only did they "offer" me full sticker, they wanted me to pay the dealer fee twice. I really liked the Accord, though. I'm sure Honda will do well with it.
My final shopping was the Fusion SE, Camry SE and the Altima SV. In the end, I didn't like the Fusion enough--the Focus-like back end was the real deal breaker for me. The Camry wasn't bad. We have a 2012 Sienna and I like the service department at my dealer. At the end of the day, though, I wasn't excited about buying a Camry, so I moved on.
I went to the Nissan dealer with the intention of looking at an Altima 2.5S. The dealer was offering a Memorial Day deal of about $18k for the 2.5S. I really wanted the automatic climate control, alloy wheels and back up camera that the Accord LX has, though. I had to move over to the Altima 2.5SV. The SV has the features of the Accord--plus, it has satellite radio and Intelligent Key with remote start. The fit and finish of the new Altima is similar to the Maxima and the feel on the road is very solid. So far I am very happy with my purchase. I see why there are many new Altimas on the road.