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#18262 of 20217 2014 Mazda 6 Leatherett
May 31, 2013 (5:41 am)
What is the difference between the leatherette on the touring vs the leather on the grand touring? I was looking at a 2013 Honda Accord EX-L and faintly remembered the leather being softer feeling.
I am concidering the Accord EX-L or the Mazda 6 touring. There is a big price difference on the two though. I am looking at about invoice less military rebate on the Mazda 6 (about 23100) vs the Honda EX-L 4 cyl (about 28295 including military rebate). The Honda is asking pretty much retail but is offering me 13500 for my impreza which KBB for 10500.
I like both cars. The honda does not offer black leather on the white exterior while the Mazda does. I like the 60/40 split rear seat on the mazda. Which leaves me choosing a The Honda dealer is only up the street from me while the Mazda is about a 35 minute drive. I know the the Honda has alot of safety features the Mazda does not (or you have to pay extra for) such as radar type cruise control, lane departure.
#18263 of 20217 Re: 2014 Mazda 6 Leatherett [stygz2]
May 31, 2013 (6:11 am)
Congrats on your two choices, both excellent.
The EX-L Accord is the top of the line trim level for a 4 cylinder. That is why the price is much higher.
You can compare the Accord Sport, and that gets you 18" rims plus dual exhaust. It includes the backup camera of course, but not the second lower screen. It stickers at around $23 to $26, and is more of an apples-to apples comparison to the Mazda 6 Touring with the leatherette.
Now, are you going for an auto trans? Because the Accord has a CVT, but the Mazda has a conventional 6 speed automatic.
I would drive both, and I don't mean around the block. I mean take them both home for an extended test drive. That will help you break your deadlock on choosing I believe.
#18264 of 20217 2014 Mazda 6 leatherett
May 31, 2013 (6:31 am)
I have test driven both cars. Either transmission is fine with me. Obviously I see most passenger cars going CVT in the future and I dont have a problem with it. I have yet to do an extended test drive. The Honda dealer did offer me one though. I do note the honda felt really nice going over RR tracks. It felt like a luxury car. The Honda dealer quoted me a payment of 425. I went home and ran the figures myself and got a payment of 407. I wonder what the difference of payment was for? Gap insurance or ?. I may have to have them email me the figures. I can really see the Accord being a great road trip car comfortable, nice stereo and seemed to be a pleasure to drive. Funny the dealer was sticking with the MSRP but over offering my trade. It seems with those figures I may be able to get them to throw in 2 oil/ tire rotations and maybe a spoiler.
#18265 of 20217 Re: 2014 Mazda 6 leatherett [stygz2]
May 31, 2013 (12:02 pm)
I will get right to the point. I was a buyer for a bank that purchased auto loans. (Like Ford Motor Credit, etc). Here is what the dealer is doing.
They are creating a cash down payment of $3000. so, your deal is as follows:
2013 Honda Accord EX-L
$28,295 (after military discount)
13,500 (for your trade
- 10,500 (you owe)
= 3000 down payment
+ doc prep, tags, taxes,
A bank will only lend so much on a car. the max is 125% of dealer invoice (or NADA book value if the car is used). So, they give you $3000 more than your trade is worth to create a down payment so the bank will buy the deal with favorable terms.
The dealer also will want a $250 "doc prep" fee, $50 for tags, and don't forget the taxes. The $25 payment discrepancy is due to those fees.
This is only 1 scenario based on info you provided. If you are upside down on your trade they could be trying to pay it off so they can put you in a new car....and that is why you pay MSRP. Banks do NOT like being upside down on a deal any more than you do.
#18266 of 20217 Re: 2014 Mazda 6 leatherett [cski]
May 31, 2013 (1:49 pm)
That is close to my scenerio
599 dealer fee
50 misc tag fees
960 approximate ad valor tax (No sales tax we call it ad valor tax in Georgia)
30404-7000=23404 financed 1.9x60mo = $409 month
Dealer said it would be $425 a month. The dealer must be trying to work in something else? Maybe some paint and interior protectant?
I may concider a Altima 2.5 SL. I like the Bose stereo, Xenon headlights, and remote start all for less than the Accord. But no lane watch.
#18267 of 20217 Re: 2014 Mazda 6 leatherett [stygz2]
May 31, 2013 (1:07 pm)
Did they quote you like 1.9%, but it is actually 1.99% ? That's a common variance. They are trying to get your business and we are programmed to think of gas (for example ) as costing $3.65, but it is actually 3.6599, or $3.66.
Look over the contract, and make sure all the number jive. Enjoy your new car. I am outta here!
#18268 of 20217 Re: 2014 Mazda 6 leatherett [stygz2]
May 31, 2013 (1:39 pm)
off the top of my head 18 time 60 is about $1100, $1000 before interest, so it's worth looking into.
#18269 of 20217 Re: 2014 Mazda 6 leatherett [explorerx4]
May 31, 2013 (2:12 pm)
I am thinking either some sort of maint plan. Or the dealer lists a few charges such as $399 for nitrogen tire fill, $xxx for paint sealant, $xxx for fabric interior protectant. I will swing by dealer when they are closed and see if those misc charges listed on the dealers window sticker add up to $1000. I asked the salesman early upon looking at the accord if those charges are optional. I think he said that stuff has already been done to the car. $399 for nitrogen is way out of line......
#18270 of 20217 Re: 2014 Mazda 6 leatherett [stygz2]
May 31, 2013 (5:01 pm)
My Neighborhood Shell will inflate with Nitrogen for $0.00. Free. Also, $599 doc prep is high. Tell them $250.
#18271 of 20217 Mazda 6 - no heated steering wheel?
Jun 01, 2013 (11:56 am)
No heated steering wheel on the Grand Touring? That a big omission for me. Even the 2014 Forte EX comes with one.