Last post on Dec 09, 2013 at 12:40 PM
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#18244 of 20230 Re: Accord/Mazda 6 + loud cars
May 28, 2013 (6:07 pm)
Road noise is pretty low on my criteria when looking at cars, but I'm sure pretty just about all of the cars in this class are sufficiently quiet. It's all relative, too- for example, people keep talking about how loud Hondas are, but I find my 2007 Accord to be fairly quiet in areas I care about (e.g. the engine noise is low and the road noise is moderate- I find engine noise more offensive than road noise if it's an unrefined engine). Of course, I came from a Dodge Neon.
If the new Mazda 6 does in fact have the noisiest interior in its class, it's not really a surprise since they could think the noise keeps the driver more connected (they are the "Zoom, zoom" company). I actually prefer Mazda's approach of keeping the car lighter and more efficient, even if it's not Fusion or Malibu quiet. Not to say that they can't add more sound deadening, but I don't think any car in this class is without flaws.
#18245 of 20230 Re: Accord/Mazda 6 + loud cars [cski]
May 28, 2013 (6:51 pm)
If you swap to 16s or 17s on a car that was setup from the factory to run on 19's, there may be issues with various systems in the car (suspension, stability control etc.).
#18246 of 20230 Re: Accord/Mazda 6 + loud cars [serenity185]
May 28, 2013 (7:08 pm)
Every car I looked at does have some flaws.
Honda Accord, ridiculous 1 piece folding rear seat. Afterthought-looking center touch screen on EX-L models that has already needed a service campaign to fix issues. Minor CVT issues on 4 cylinder. Minor automatic transmission issues on V6.
Altima has some quality control issues and drivability complaints on 4 cylinder models.
Mazda 6 noisy, undersized nav screen and uses second rate TomTom maps and routing. Have to get nav if you want push start. No rear cam without nav.
Chevy Malibu very uncompetitive mpg for what it is even with e-Assist, small back seat, bad styling, no push start available. Quietness is all it seems to have going for it. Pricing not low enough to overlook shortcomings.
2013 Ford Fusion requires overpriced Titanium edition to get push start.
Camry super bland exterior, cluttered truck-like dashboard, cheap seats, hellish small overlap crash test results.
Subarus require top trim levels and even then you still have to spend thousands more on mandatory option packages to get push start.
#18247 of 20230 Re: Accord/Mazda 6 + loud cars [jaxs1]
May 28, 2013 (9:19 pm)
Every 2014 Mazda 6 has push button start.
Back up cam is on every model with AT.
#18248 of 20230 Re: Accord/Mazda 6 + loud cars [jaxs1]
May 29, 2013 (3:33 am)
You are correct that each car has pluses and minuses. But different people perceive them differently as well. The 1-fold rear seat on the Accord is a non-issue for me as my second car is a hatchback. The EX-L touch screen is one of the car's biggest pluses for me! So easy to use and so intuitive! On the other hand, you can't get Homelink garage transmitter on any 4 cylinder Accord. Some people dont like that you can't get remote start either. Minus on the Altima for me was no power passenger seat, but it does have remote start.Road noise would be an issue on the Mazda although I really like them.
What isn't an issue is that these are all great cars that are well-made and reliable. They do drive somewhat differently. So it's really a matter of how each car appeals to your driving style and the combination of features that matter most.
#18249 of 20230 Re: Accord/Mazda 6 + loud cars [tundradweller1]
May 29, 2013 (5:05 am)
I mean push start with smart entry. Push start without smart entry is kind of pointless to me since you still have to take the key out to open the door.
#18250 of 20230 Re: Accord/Mazda 6 + loud cars [suydam]
May 29, 2013 (5:08 am)
You can get remote start on an Accord as a dealer accessory. The issue with this besides the cost, is that if doesn't integrate with the key fob that works with smart entry. So, you have to carry 2 key fobs with you if you have an EX or above.
#18251 of 20230 Re: Accord/Mazda 6 + loud cars [jaxs1]
May 29, 2013 (7:39 am)
2014 Fusion will offer intelligent access and push button start on SE models.
#18252 of 20230 Re: Accord/Mazda 6 + loud cars [akirby]
May 29, 2013 (9:41 am)
The Optima EX , on par with the Fusion SE, does have start button and an intelligent key fob. It also has a refrigerated glove box for drinks on trips, leather, dual exhaust, fog lights, zebrano wood accents, 200 HP, 17" alloys, satellite radio, USB ports, I-pod aux port, two power ports, MP3 support, bluetooth, and 100,000 mile powertrain (5/60 bumper to bumper) plus free oil changes for life. All this is in just the base EX. $24,260 sticker. $21,880 was my negotiated real price.
Find another car with that much content for that price!!!! All I wish it had was a standard backup camera and a height adjust on the passenger seat.
#18253 of 20230 Re: Accord/Mazda 6 + loud cars [cski]
May 29, 2013 (10:11 am)
It's what matters to you. I love, love, the backup camera. Accord has most of those on EX-L, no refrigerated glove box though. Not sure I would want that anyway.