Last post on Dec 09, 2013 at 4:01 AM
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#18181 of 20224 Re: 2014 Ford Fusion [m6user]
May 20, 2013 (4:20 pm)
My '02 Explorer, same size as a mid size sedan, is on it's 3rd set of tires.
The 2nd set were Michelin's, which I was completely happy with, until it came time to replace them. Sidewalls started cracking after 6 years, but I got my 65k out of them, so they worked as advertised. They went from $640 to $850 for a set of 4, so I did some homework.
Ended up buying a set of General Grabbers for $500 out the door.
They are equal or better than the Michelin's, other than in cold weather they are a bit stiffer and I haven't gotten the 65k they are supposed to be good for, yet. That remains to be seen.
I'll go through the same thing when I have to replace the tires on my Fusion.
#18182 of 20224 Re: 2014 Ford Fusion [explorerx4]
May 20, 2013 (4:22 pm)
>They went from $640 to $850 for a set of 4, so I did some homework.
There will be another $70 rebate on Michelins in the fall I'm guessing. I still think they are worth the money for the quality of the tire--they stay round and roll round. I'm expecting to buy another set before winter; just bought a set for the Cobalt.
#18183 of 20224 Re: 2014 Ford Fusion [imidazol97]
May 20, 2013 (4:47 pm)
I bought those Generals over 30k miles ago.
They are still very quiet and the best mileage over back to back tanks were on these tires at 120k vehicle miles. Now at 135k.
My Fusion is almost 3 months old and has yet to hit 2k.
I'm looking forward to our summer/fall driving season.
#18184 of 20224 Re: 2014 Ford Fusion [explorerx4]
May 20, 2013 (7:23 pm)
I don't know why you are spending time defending these larger tires.
Tire expense per set will probably be less with a smaller tire, but they may be lower quality and not last as long.
There is no reason I would be buying low quality 17 inch tires.
In general the lower profile tires of comparable quality have much lower tread life.
If you look up tread life warranties, you will will not find very low profile tires with very long warranties. While you could possibly buy super cheap 16" tires that will not last if you wanted to, it not that difficult to find 50-80K mile rated standard tires 16-17" tires. If you look up 18 and 19" low profile tires, you will not find tires where the manufacturer has a very long tread life warranty.
Even if such a tire existed, I don't want overpriced, rougher riding, noisier tires on a family sedan.
There is not that much extra rubber and other materials in 18-19" tires to justify the cost difference. They charge so much more partly because they are lower volume tires and the rest of the high price is because the people who love the look of low profile tires are willing to pay the premium. I am not.
#18185 of 20224 Mazda 6 GT vs Accord EX-L shootout (June C/D)
May 21, 2013 (3:52 am)
This just in! Read all about it!
There is a new, 2 car only; mid size sedan comparo in the June issue, which I just pried out of my mailman's hands. This is a best-of-the-best shootout of the top 2 players in the industry in a winner-take-all contest to prove once and for all which is the best mid size sedan on the market. Period.
The long and short of it is that the Mazda won. It wowed the C/D staff with it's driving dynamics, stiff structure, quick acceleration (7.0 secs to 60 vs Accord's 7.4) and spiffy interior.
Specifically, they loved the Mazda's seats and style beyond it's price tag, and the handling sealed the deal. FYI! -Chris
#18186 of 20224 Re: 2014 Ford Fusion [m6user]
May 21, 2013 (4:54 am)
Not to mention the larger rim sizes have far fewer choices when replacing. I researched 19's and they were $pendy. Test drove the Mazda 6 with both 19's and 17's and did not find a handling advantage till you were skidding through the corners. Even then it was a wash. (bought the Sport with 17's) Also they tend to have wider profiles which makes for worse winter driving capabilty. We have 18's on a a Sonata 2.0T and had to buy dedicated 16" rims and tires for winter. Not suprisingly the car rode much nicer on 16's.
#18187 of 20224 Re: Mazda 6 GT vs Accord EX-L shootout (June C/D) [cski]
May 21, 2013 (5:18 am)
Yes, this is what happens when family sedans are rated by people who rank handling and 0-60 times (7.4 seconds is too slow for them) over crash tests, reliability and ride. Now, if there was no compromise made for the better speed and handling, it would be different.
Their rankings would be more meaningful if they were testing WRX vs EVO or Camaro vs Mustang.
#18188 of 20224 Re: Mazda 6 GT vs Accord EX-L shootout (June C/D) [cski]
May 21, 2013 (5:58 am)
There is a new, 2 car only; mid size sedan comparo in the June issue, which I just pried out of my mailman's hands.
You need to complain to the USPS. My mail carrier delivered the June C/D issue to me almost a month ago! I think I mentioned the 0-60 results many posts ago.
#18189 of 20224 Re: Mazda 6 GT vs Accord EX-L shootout (June C/D) [jaxs1]
May 21, 2013 (6:02 am)
C/D said they liked the ride of the Mazda over the Accord's. Reliability? For two brand-new models? Too early to tell, especially given the new powertrains in these cars. As for crash tests, the Mazda6 is an IIHS Top Safety Pick+ just like the Accord.
Plus the Mazda was quicker, had better handling, better seats, and IMO much better styling inside and out. Plus the economical Skyactiv powertrain.
What's not to like?
#18190 of 20224 Re: 2014 Ford Fusion [tundradweller1]
May 21, 2013 (6:27 am)
Yes, I would like to replace my wife's Mazda6 with a new one in about a year. However, to get the bells and whistles you are forced into 19" rims. That is a major downer for me. I would prefer 17", could deal with 18", but 19"s may just be a deal breaker as we keep our cars for at least one tire change, often two. And, living in Chicago area, the extra wide profile do not do that well in the snow and I'm just not into having dedicated snow tires for a myriad of reasons.