Last post on Dec 09, 2013 at 8:19 AM
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#18085 of 20228 Re: Speaking of MPG: Hyundai owners getting $$$ [cski]
May 06, 2013 (7:08 am)
How do I trust a car's integrity, MPG, and Specs when the manufacturer is caught lying about them?
I guess Honda and Toyota aren't to be trusted either, if you use that logic.
My aunt bought a 2005 Odyssey with 255hp, only to have it re-rated at 244. The 2005 Avalon with 280hp? How about 268.
That 3.3L 225hp Camry SE? It was re-rated at 210.
The $50,000 Acura RL had 300hp, right? No, re-rated to 290.
The SAE changed guidelines for rating in 2005. It affected most every manufacturer.
#18086 of 20228 Re: Speaking of MPG: Hyundai owners getting $$$ [backy]
May 07, 2013 (3:56 am)
I meant no offense. I drive a Hyundai/Kia product too. I just want to get what I paid for, and I am aware that other manufacturers fudge the numbers as well, and not just car companies. The Hyundai MPG scandal left a lot of owners with a bad taste in their mouth, including me...makes you wonder how many other features and specs are overstated.
I tried to get over 30 mpg highway yesterday, ECO button on, A/C off, and I mustered up all the patience of a Buddhist monk and kept the speed at 60 mph.
What did I get? 26.9 MPG. No traffic, no stops, no passing, no sudden throttle inputs, and I coasted in neutral on all downhill grades.
I am going on vacation next month with an 850 mile round trip, so maybe longer, flatter roads will make a difference.
May 07, 2013 (6:14 am)
Wow 26.9 stinks for 60 mpg steady speed (my Sienna minivan does better). Should be higher than that. Consumer Reports got it at 39 mpg going a steady 65 mph. It is behind the Accord, Camry, Altima and Mazda6 (which get between 40 and 44 on the same test), but it should still get mid to upper 30's with no problem.
Was there a headwind? Tires inflated properly? Was the road surface coarse? Was the road wet? Looks like you were in a hilly area - try it on level ground. You should be over 40 mpg at 60 mph.
If nothing works, I would try renting a Sonata and seeing how that one does. If it does much better you will know there is something wrong with your car.
#18088 of 20228 Re: Speaking of MPG: Hyundai owners getting $$$ [cski]
May 07, 2013 (7:02 am)
Do you have the 2.4L or the turbo? Recently on a 180 mile round trip with some city driving, but most at 65-67 mph on cruise, I got 36.5 mpg with my wife's 2013 Sonata. And got 38.5 mpg on the all-highway trip to the destination. That was at mid-30s for temps, so not ideal weather but not too bad.
I have no idea how you could get only 26.9 mpg on a new Optima at a steady 60 mph with no stops. My only conclusion is there must be something terribly wrong with your car. I can get mid-20s mpg IN TOWN, in winter, on my wife's Sonata.
#18089 of 20228 26.9 highway on 395...2.4 Optima
May 07, 2013 (7:50 am)
I think it is the hills. The stretch between West Springfield to the State Dept in DC. has some pretty major hills. Actually the whole route is up and down....and I don't think the downhill stretches make up for it. With the cruise on, it makes the tranny downshift, sometimes two gears in order to maintain speed. Heck, here is the route: https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=home&daddr=23rd+and+F+street+NW+DC
I can't wait to get going on vacation, as the more rural parts of my trip are very flat.
#18090 of 20228 Re: Speaking of MPG: Hyundai owners getting $$$ [thegraduate]
May 07, 2013 (7:58 am)
What Hyundai did was lie and fudge the EPA test. The SAE ratings change does not signify a lie by the manufacturer, but rather different guidelines to rate engines by. There is a difference.
#18091 of 20228 Re: 26.9 highway on 395...2.4 Optima [cski]
May 07, 2013 (9:16 am)
I would avoid using cruise on hills severe enough to ask for more than one downshift..actually even one downshift FTM. That is certaiinly one reason behind the low number. But given your description and coasting down those same hills, it does sound especially low.
On a different note...
"Potbelly Sandwich Shop"
If I lived in your neighborhood, why do I have this sense I'd put weight on??
Hey..cski...maybe that's where your fuel mileage has gone?? lol
#18092 of 20228 Re: 26.9 highway on 395...2.4 Optima [gimmestdtranny]
May 07, 2013 (12:39 pm)
I assume those are fine french dining establishments in my area, which of course I frequent daily. There is a classical harpist at "Magic Gourd" from 11 to 2. LMAO.
#18093 of 20228 Re: Speaking of MPG: Hyundai owners getting $$$ [aviboy97]
May 07, 2013 (12:43 pm)
That's it exactly.
#18094 of 20228 Re: 26.9 highway on 395...2.4 Optima [cski]
May 07, 2013 (12:58 pm)
That's not really the route you drive right?
Most cars now shut the fuel off when coasting, so shifting into neutral doesn't really buy you anything.