Last post on Dec 10, 2013 at 5:02 PM
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#18074 of 20239 Re: midsize sales for April [benjaminh]
May 01, 2013 (4:28 pm)
So, Passat didn't even make the top 9??
Sonata + Optima almost matching Camry in sales... whodathunkit.
#18075 of 20239 Re: midsize sales for April [backy]
May 01, 2013 (7:08 pm)
Maybe VW reported their numbers late? The Passat is in their somewhere, probably at about the 10,000 a month level.
#18076 of 20239 Awesome Backy. Newsflash! 2014 Sonata pics!
May 02, 2013 (5:12 am)
Here are some pics of the 2014 Sonata. Hyundai really did good work on the new interior...though it's a bit too grey. The exterior looks great too, especially the new front end. The car is shown in top level trim, complete with 20" rims, LED headlights and fogs, dual exhaust, and blackout roof with an electro-chromatic self darkening sunroof.
I can only wonder how the bread and butter GLS will look as the "$199 a month" volume sales leader.
#18077 of 20239 Re: Awesome Backy. Newsflash! 2014 Sonata pics! [cski]
May 02, 2013 (6:35 am)
Not much change at all to my eyes, but maybe I'm missing something and/or the pix are too small.
The 2013 Accord seems like a radical redo compared to this warmed over "new" model.
I imagine it will sell fine, but....Surely that can't be an all-new car.
Maybe it's just a refresh of the current model?
#18078 of 20239 Re: Awesome Backy. Newsflash! 2014 Sonata pics! [benjaminh]
May 02, 2013 (7:53 am)
Sorry, thought I put refresh in there. It is not an all new car.
The fog light design is new, the interior has upgraded materials, the taillights are now wrap-around LED's, and dual exhaust is added to more models, rims are new design. Subtle changes, but changes indeed.
#18079 of 20239 Re: Awesome Backy. Newsflash! 2014 Sonata pics! [benjaminh]
May 02, 2013 (8:30 am)
I agree. The photo car is the same color as my wife's 2013 Sonata, and without looking VERY carefully I can't see any change from the 2013 model (except her car is a GLS, so there's slight exterior diffs just because of that). And the interior of the photo car is a bit different, but again it's a loaded model so I can't tell how it will translate to the GLS.
I expected more of an upgrade for a mid-gen refresh. But frankly, the styling wasn't any issue for me. It would be great if in the mid-gen refresh Hyundai addresses all the little glitches that some folks have had with their Sonatas, e.g. steering and smartphone pairing. Maybe add a power passenger seat (and maybe a standard manual height adjuster) option too, as some folks think the passenger seat is too low. My wife's Sonata has been flawless, but it's a tough market so some improvements are needed to keep pace.
#18080 of 20239 Re: Speaking of MPG: Hyundai owners getting $$$ [backy]
May 03, 2013 (1:25 am)
Hey backy....I see you have 10+ inches of snow up there. How does your wife's Sonata GLS hold up with all the harsh weather in Minnesota? I mean with all the salt and scraping and corrosion. My folks were Buffalo natives and I was shocked at how bad cars rust there. Sorry you are still getting snow here in May!!!
#18081 of 20239 Favorite/least favorite mid size features:
May 03, 2013 (3:52 am)
On my Optima:
1) Steering wheel controls. I can do almost everything without my hand leaving the wheel, or taking my eyes off the road.
2) Comfortable seats
3) Smooth powertrain operation.
1) Passenger seat too Low and has no height adjustment
2) Hard to see out of. Needs rear view camera as standard equipment.
#18082 of 20239 Re: Speaking of MPG: Hyundai owners getting $$$ [cski]
May 03, 2013 (3:01 pm)
Too early to tell how the Sonata will hold up through many winters. Really appreciated the seat heaters this winter, though! But my 10-year-old Elantra has been through 10 Minnesota winters and has held up great, just a dime-sized paint bubbling near the rear license plate. The important thing is to get the salt off the car. So I use the card I got from the dealer which provides $5 "works" touch-free washes at a place a mile away. And I can use that on all my cars.
Fortunately, we didn't get the 10+ inches of snow some other parts of Minnesota got yesterday, everything we got melted on contact.
#18083 of 20239 Re: Speaking of MPG: Hyundai owners getting $$$ [backy]
May 06, 2013 (4:57 am)
My neighbor has a 2003 Elanra GLS. With 170k it has needed only tires, brake rotors & pads, and oil. A good little car.
When you said your Elanra has been holding up well after 10 Minnesota winters, I looked up the Edmunds review, and found ANOTHER HYUNDAI "MISSTATEMENT". It seems that they rated the 2.0 liter engine at 140 hp, when it really only makes 135.
Not good. How do I trust a car's integrity, MPG, and Specs when the manufacturer is caught lying about them?