Last post on Nov 28, 2013 at 10:36 AM
You are in the Sedans
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#18040 of 20165 Re: Passat [akirby]
Apr 26, 2013 (12:02 pm)
I wasn't aware Fusion is high end. Every review I've seen complains about the Ford Mytouch system or whatever it's called.
Apr 26, 2013 (12:10 pm)
How well does the touch work with heavy gloves?
#18042 of 20165 Re: Passat [akirby]
Apr 26, 2013 (1:17 pm)
I don't consider a mid-sized family sedan a "high end model". I'm not allowed to rent a luxury vehicle under my company's policies, so that's not the issue.
I know a lot of folks love the whiz-bang touch screen interfaces and center stacks that have a zillion buttons. I'm not one of those people.
#18043 of 20165 Re: Passat [ivan_99]
Apr 26, 2013 (1:27 pm)
For the Fusion like the one in the picture, there are at least 4 ways to operate the climate control system.
Center touch screen, 'buttons' around the center stack, using the buttons on the right spoke of the steering wheel that control the small screen to the right of the speedometer and voice commands by using the buttons just under the spoke also shown in the picture.
You can always set the climate control to 'Auto'.
I think most of you are confusing familiarity with ease of operation.
Since we have 6 cars that and I drive all of them at times, the 3 dial system does not always have the same order left to right.
I still have to look at the pictograms on the center dial to figure out which mode I want, in addition to figuring out which one is the fan and which one is for temp.
#18044 of 20165 Re: Passat [suydam]
Apr 26, 2013 (2:03 pm)
The reference was to a Taurus Limited but even a Fusion Titanium can be loaded up with more luxury features than luxury cars had 10 years ago.
#18045 of 20165 Re: Passat [backy]
Apr 26, 2013 (4:15 pm)
Me either. All I want in a rental is a long wheelbase, roomy trunk for my gear and whatever laptops/servers/whatever I have to deploy on site, cruise control, and it has to ride smoothly and quietly at 70 MPH. I don't fit well in compacts (6'3" 240).
I always end up with one of those Scion vans. I know they are VERY reliable, and they have a lot of room, but they are loud and the interior make me sad. LOL. I am always happy to have an Altima....comfortable seat. Second choice is a Fusion. I have never been able to rent an Optima. Never even seen one at the airport fleet in Pittsburgh.
#18046 of 20165 Re: Passat [ivan_99]
Apr 26, 2013 (11:00 pm)
It's interesting that you chose perhaps one of the worst GM designs from the '80s for your point of comparison (I'm a bit surprised you didn't seek out a pic of the '86 Riviera's MFTesque boob tube or the buttonfest that was the '87 Toronado Trofeo's dashboard). And could you have possibly found a more bombed out Cutlass? Sheesh.
No, the 1988 and newer Olds Cutlass Supremes (as pictured) used a different design than the GM cars I'm referencing (and thus wasn't nearly as "user friendly"). The '78 to '87 Supremes did use the two slide design though. And, interestingly enough, Olds used the old hat climate control design on the Ciera all the way up until they laid that model to rest in '96.
Anyway, to each his own. I didn't think the old GM control designs were breathtaking beauties, but that is not the point I'm making here. I just thought the control panels were very functional and intuitive. Interestingly, the aesthetic argument does seem to be the primary one several MFT adherents are trying to posit however (something I find equally odd, but whatever).
Finally, the redudant controls defense is entirely lost on me. Short of having basic radio functions (as I often - as I suspect many do - adjust stations, volume and media types while on the road) repeated on the steering wheel [preferably within a finger's touch], I do not understand it. Are there really people out there that fiddle with the temperature and fan speed settings so much that multiple control options are necessary? No wonder such a large percentage of drivers think shifting a manual transmission is such a headache nowadays - they're probably so distracted operating all their superfluous doodads and whatzits while behind the wheel that manually selecting gears and operating a clutch in anything resembling city traffic would require a co-pilot...
#18047 of 20165 Re: - [dudleyr]
Apr 27, 2013 (6:25 am)
The touchscreen in my Fusion Titanium works fine with gloves. However the "buttons" below it do not. As mentioned previously, there are multiple ways to get to the same place but I would agree that jumping into this as a rental having never driven one would be a bit intimidating.
#18049 of 20165 first sort of Fusion road trip
Apr 27, 2013 (4:12 pm)
Since it was the first long trip (390 miles) and I had a couple of passengers, I decided not to push the distance, so I filled up at 386 miles. Took 13.2 gallons for an average of 29.2. Didn't start trip with a full tank as I had 90 normal commuting miles on it.
Last hundred miles after that are at 31.6, so I think beating the EPA highway of 33 MPG, should not be a problem.
Due to the condition of a lot of the highways, I think I'd drop the tire pressure a bit next time at same temps.
I did notice what I think is something I don't like.
With the cruise on, going down a hill it will sometimes shift down a gear. One time it downshifted 2 gears. I guess it's something to do with the 'grade logic'. Turn off the cruise and it returns to more normal coasting.