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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
Apr 26, 2013 (12:08 am)
I rented a car from Enterprise a few months ago and my reservation for a standard or full-size (anything but a Chrysler or Dodge). I was pleasantly surprised when the rental agent gave me a free upgrade to a 'Premium' vehicle they had just received the previous day- a brand new 2013 Ford Taurus Limited.
I loved the looks and ride of the Taurus. But without an Owner's Manual, I was flying blind on MyFordTouch! I quickly learned to despise it!
My best friend just got a 2013 Fusion SE as his company car and it also has MyFordTouch....he wants his 2012 Fusion SEL back(even though it had the transmission 'self-destruct' issue)!
#18033 of 20193 Re: Passat [ivan_99]
Apr 26, 2013 (1:48 am)
The picture of the Old's has A/C controls that I have never seen before...The unit that we have been discussing is the one with slide controls that directly operate the HVAC vacuum system. This one has only 1 slide and the rest is push button.
Apr 26, 2013 (6:23 am)
"buttonpalooza" LOL! Thanks for starting my day out with a huge laugh.
#18035 of 20193 Re: Passat [ivan_99]
Apr 26, 2013 (7:40 am)
Hey Ivan...I re-read my post earlier about this picture and I sounded kinda like a jerk. I didn't mean to at all. The HVAC unit I remember had two sliders. One for cold or hot, the other was for where you wanted the air to be routed.
What I also meant to say was WOW; look how far we've come! Also, if you look at the IP, it is a "digi-dash, with LED speedometer, coolant, fuel and oil pressure gauges. I also noted that the ash tray has been torn out of this poor old Old's.
How did we ever think that this was acceptable quality? These new cars are just soooo much better. I am grateful for that!!
#18036 of 20193 Re: Passat [gogophers1]
Apr 26, 2013 (8:59 am)
IMO, there is one thing that IS done better today than yesterdecades. Having a proper recirculate control that lets the owner CHOOSE recirculate in any mode they want. Naturally, the idiot-proofing is built in so that if def/floor or full def is chosen, the recirc door opens to fresh, (and in some cases can be programmed to let you bypass that function if you know how to do it) but at least this new function of having control of it in most modes means that, if your goal is to block out a really smelly oil burner in congested stop and go, or an excessively rich gas burner and/or following someone on a really dusty road, you don't have to endure:
a) with cars that let you get recirculate by going to Max A/C, but does it using the Mode control, if it's winter, still ends up blowing hot air in your face because the only mode it works in is Vent. This may suck, but not nearly as bad as the ones set up as:
b) recirculate controlled by the Temp control... the ONLY way you can get recirculate is to slide the temp control to full cold called Max A/C. What a hopelessly negligently designed HVAC control setup. There may be others, but Chrysler had this ridiculous set-up on all their Tragic Wagons and K Cars, LeBarons etc.
IOW's, if you get stuck in stop and go in your Tragic Wagon and the Tragic Wagon in front of you has an old Mitsubishi 2.6 sputtering so much burnt oil out at you, there are wet drops on your windshield, in the dead of winter, if you don't want to inhale all that, you must freeze your butts off and even lose defrost ability if it's storming to boot..
So that said, recently I was looking at the gallery pics of something brand new this year (I forget what it was off hand but think it was....well I really do forget) and saw HVAC controls, that clearly had gone back to Max A/C control as being the only way to get recirculate. At least it was done with the Mode control as opposed to the Temp control.. but in seeing that, I just shook my head and ruled that car out on that alone. If they are THAT stupid in that regard, just think of all the other potential areas they could have and probably did, screw up..
#18037 of 20193 Re: Passat [igozoomzoom]
Apr 26, 2013 (10:09 am)
"But without an Owner's Manual, I was flying blind on MyFordTouch! I quickly learned to despise it!"
How long did you spend testing it to see how it worked? Or did you just drive off and try to figure it out while driving? Shouldn't have taken more than a few minutes to figure out basic operations.
#18038 of 20193 Re: Passat [akirby]
Apr 26, 2013 (10:46 am)
I don't know about you, but when I get to an airport at the end of a long day, usually late at night, or if I need to get to a customer meeting right away, the last thing I want to do is spend even 5 minutes (and that's low, in my experience, with some of today's cars) figuring out the controls before I can leave the rental lot.
I wound up in a Yaris yesterday, and while it's not the greatest wheels on the planet, it has wonderfully simple controls. It doesn't slice bread for me while I drive, but that's not what I look for in a car. I see a car first and foremost as transportation, not an entertainment theme park.
Fortunately there's still some mid-sized cars with intuitive, straightforward controls.
#18039 of 20193 Re: Passat [backy]
Apr 26, 2013 (11:46 am)
Then don't ask for - or accept - a high end model.
#18040 of 20193 Re: Passat [akirby]
Apr 26, 2013 (12:02 pm)
I wasn't aware Fusion is high end. Every review I've seen complains about the Ford Mytouch system or whatever it's called.
Apr 26, 2013 (12:10 pm)
How well does the touch work with heavy gloves?