Last post on Dec 10, 2013 at 5:02 PM
You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#17868 of 20239 Re: Lemmings [backy]
Apr 03, 2013 (9:14 am)
Mazda can't ship enough cars over here even if they could sell them.
Yeah, they just don't have the capacity to be in the top sales tier. That was also true when they weren't made in Japan but in Flat Rock, Mi. They are a smaller company, smaller advertising budget, fewer dealers and always marketed to a somewhat smaller segment looking for a sporty drive in a family hauler body. I always chuckle when people say "they will never sell as many 6's as Camry, Accord or Altima". Really??? It's kind of like Mcdonalds and Wendys. Wendy's will concievably never sell as many burgers for much the same reasons I've mentioned but it doesn't mean they can't make a profit or that their burgers are inferior.
#17869 of 20239 Re: Fusion 6F35 6-speed auto issues, 2010 to 2012 [cski]
Apr 03, 2013 (5:09 pm)
The 6F35 was first used in 2009 in the Escape/?mariner/Tribute.
I thought it was earlier, but I guess that was a different trans.
We have a 2009 Escape, which I knew has that trans.
#17870 of 20239 Re: guesses for model year 2013 [cski]
Apr 03, 2013 (5:14 pm)
I kind of feel like because of the cheap 2 year lease deals, reliability is a tougher call.
Not too much usually goes wrong in 20-30k miles, and after that the next buyer doesn't really know what the car's past history is.
#17871 of 20239 What I don't get is.....
Apr 04, 2013 (7:31 am)
I found out that the Optima's sold in Canada are made in Korea, not in the USA. Why? Why would Kia ship cars 6500 miles from Korea instead of 1300 miles from the US? High export tariffs/taxes?
On Ford's alleged "big problem" with it's 6F35 6 speed automatic...I never even heard of it until I saw a post here. I looked it up on the Fusion forums and was able to confirm there were problems with Fusions and Escapes since late 2009, but I can't find info on what percentage of cars are actually affected.
On the Mazda 6, I agree with the host here that it is a 2014 model and can't compete yet in sufficient numbers with the big players in this segment. I CAN say this. I see a WHOLE LOT of Mazda 3's out there, and if the 6 is similarly successful, then they will be a major player indeed.
#17872 of 20239 Re: What I don't get is..... [cski]
Apr 04, 2013 (10:36 am)
Canadian regulations are different enough from the U.S. regulations in terms of little worthless junk like lights (same but not govt approved) and gauges (KM vs U.S.) and bumpers and all of that that it takes too long to re-tool and have a second assembly process for Canadian cars. The Canadian cars are hardly any different from the cars that they sell to Europe and the rest of the world, so they have U.S. plants essentially making U.S. versions.
#17873 of 20239 Re: 35% window tint just installed (for hot summer) [cski]
Apr 04, 2013 (4:52 pm)
Your car looks great. Continued good luck with it.
#17874 of 20239 Re: What I don't get is..... [plekto]
Apr 04, 2013 (5:22 pm)
I think it may also have to do with the fact that the factory can only turn out enough for the US market, Canadian regs aren't that different anymore BTW, and if they were made in the US ( don't know if they need a certain North American content for this though) they would be part of the auto pact ( and free trade agreement) and not have duty, of course I think we have some sort of free trade agreement with Korea too so who knows? Our current government is very big on having free trade agreements with everyone, so that all our labour can be shipped offshore ( just like the states were trying to do).
#17875 of 20239 Re: What I don't get is..... [plekto]
Apr 05, 2013 (4:19 am)
I understand, but my car (and most others) can switch to metric w/a push of a button, and is also available with DRL's.
A new regulation in Quebec requires car owners to outfit their cars with winter/snow tires that have a special symbol stamped on the sidewall that it meets certain winter weather performance standards. So basically the Canadian government requires a substantial investment by its citizens for a set of snow tires. Most would have them mounted on separate set of rims in order for use to be practical.
This is in response to the amount of needless deaths /injuries, and property damage which costs millions. FYI.
Apr 05, 2013 (7:25 am)
Given Honda's trouble with AT in the past I suspected that there will be issues with new CVT. And sure enough there are. From I what I read new Accord does not look like better choice than Fusion from reliability point of view and I have yet to see reported problems with 2013 Fusion which has an advantage of using transmission which is in production 4 years already. I suspect that new Mazda6 may also have troublesome transmission and engine given it is brand new vehicle. Saying that choosing car on predicted (by CR) reliability alone may not work well if it was redesigned and have new components.
It is interesting that nobody mentions Passat. I remember not so long ago people were dying to get their hands on Passat. Not anymore?
#17877 of 20239 Re: Passat, Accord [savetheland]
Apr 05, 2013 (8:45 am)
(Shiny New Ball syndrome)