Last post on Dec 08, 2013 at 7:45 PM
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
Apr 02, 2013 (4:42 pm)
I find it hysterical that people justify their car purchases by touting sales numbers.
Lemmings pitch themselves off cliffs because all the other Lemmings are doing the same.
#17862 of 20223 Re: 2013 Ford Fusion breaks all time Fusion sales records [benjaminh]
Apr 02, 2013 (5:14 pm)
So the Fusion dropped back down to #4? I thought it was still at #3! Oh well, it's great that they're selling alot of them, but personally I'd be happier if they stopped selling them! I'm still enjoying my newfound celebrity status, and most people thinking that I'm driving a new Jaguar XF! Now that the new Jaguar XFRS has been revealed, I find it quite hilarious that the only major visible difference between that car and my Fusion is an Aston Martin grille and a different spoiler, otherwise they're nearly identical and they look like they're fraternal twins!
#17863 of 20223 Re: guesses for model year 2013 [cski]
Apr 02, 2013 (5:27 pm)
Also, I have noticed that nobody posting here is a Sonata fan.
I have a 2013 Sonata (my wife's car)... if that counts.
I've posted here before that I realize the Sonata is not at the top of the heap anymore, as it's one of the oldest mid-sized designs now, but for a $47 a month, nothing out of pocket lease (after trading in a beat-up 2007 Sonata), hard to beat it. I'd take it any day over the Camry, and although the latest designs have some advantages over the Sonata, it has a nice combination of style, features, comfort, power, and fuel economy that make it a very enjoyable ride.
Anyway, the Sonata is scheduled for a refresh for 2014. We'll see what Hyundai comes up with.
#17864 of 20223 Re: Lemmings [tundradweller1]
Apr 02, 2013 (5:31 pm)
Good point. Perhaps the top car in the class right now, the Mazda6, has dismal sales numbers. And the Legacy is a very nice car, and doesn't sell very well.
#17865 of 20223 Re: Lemmings [tundradweller1]
Apr 02, 2013 (6:30 pm)
Tundra: That was not the point at all! Lmao. We were making fun of and critiquing the car that won—the Camry.
But here's what the editor of Automobile Magazine said in summarizing their comparison test of midsize cars:
"....We have driven the new 2013 Honda Accord, and it is magnificent. Two weeks ago, most of the staff abandoned the office for a unique, bracketed, head-to-head test of eight mid-size cars, arguably the finest group of family sedans ever on the market at one time. Go to automobilemag.com or download our May iPad issue to read the report. I will tell you one thing: the 2013 Honda Accord blew everyone away. It's been a long time coming."
Apr 03, 2013 (8:03 am)
Just taking a wild guess here, but I suspect some of the Mazda6 numbers could be due to them releasing the 2014 MY very early. Maybe lots of shoppers holding off buying the 2013 and waiting for the 2014 to become widely available? Dunno.
#17867 of 20223 Re: Lemmings [kirstie_h]
Apr 03, 2013 (8:42 am)
Probably. But the Mazda6 has never sold in big numbers compared to most competitors, despite being a very competitive car. It certainly will never match the sales numbers of the likes of the Camry, Accord, Altima, and Fusion, since Mazda can't ship enough cars over here even if they could sell them.
#17868 of 20223 Re: Lemmings [backy]
Apr 03, 2013 (9:14 am)
Mazda can't ship enough cars over here even if they could sell them.
Yeah, they just don't have the capacity to be in the top sales tier. That was also true when they weren't made in Japan but in Flat Rock, Mi. They are a smaller company, smaller advertising budget, fewer dealers and always marketed to a somewhat smaller segment looking for a sporty drive in a family hauler body. I always chuckle when people say "they will never sell as many 6's as Camry, Accord or Altima". Really??? It's kind of like Mcdonalds and Wendys. Wendy's will concievably never sell as many burgers for much the same reasons I've mentioned but it doesn't mean they can't make a profit or that their burgers are inferior.
#17869 of 20223 Re: Fusion 6F35 6-speed auto issues, 2010 to 2012 [cski]
Apr 03, 2013 (5:09 pm)
The 6F35 was first used in 2009 in the Escape/?mariner/Tribute.
I thought it was earlier, but I guess that was a different trans.
We have a 2009 Escape, which I knew has that trans.