Last post on Dec 12, 2013 at 7:56 PM
You are in the Sedans
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
Mar 28, 2013 (5:28 pm)
Total drag is coefficient x frontal area. Sports cars tend to have small frontal areas.
Mar 29, 2013 (1:25 am)
On a recent trip, we had a 2013 Camry as a rental. It was a good car, but it definitely was not quite as good as our new Accord, imho.
The engine and transmission combo in the Camry is very good, however, providing nice power and good economy. That's probably where the Camry is closest to the Accord, but the Accord still has the edge, I think, in engine sound, mpg, and probably acceleration as well.
The interior of the Camry seems like a mish-mash of parts that don't always mesh well together or look integrated. The sewn vinyl layer on the top of the dashboard is more odd than lux looking. And hard plastic parts found elsewhere in the dash (particularly the part near the legs of the driver and front passenger) seem cheap.
There are some important standard features on the Accord that the Camry doesn't have, like dual zone climate control, back up camera, and perhaps something else I can't think of right now.
The styling of the Camry is perhaps the weakest in the midsize class, although I know that's very subjective.
#17842 of 20241 Re: 2013 Camry [benjaminh]
Mar 29, 2013 (1:32 am)
Yeah, on the new Camry, many reviews have said that the interior was put together by committee, and that the "aluminum" trim is squishy and can be dented by a fingernail. Also, You are also not the only one who thought the vinyl layer on top of the dash was odd.
#17843 of 20241 A rare review
Mar 30, 2013 (9:46 am)
C/D reviews the base Mazda6 in their May issue. It's nice to see a review on a base model for once, instead of loaded $30k sedans. Since it has a stick, it's not a car a lot of people will put into their garages. But the C/D folks noted that it's a sedan that would fit well alongside a sports car in those garages.
A little bigger than what I need for my next car, otherwise I'd seriously consider adding it to my garage. Although there's no sports car in it right now.
#17844 of 20241 Mazda 6 review/ backy
Mar 31, 2013 (5:17 am)
Cool. I'd better go check the mail for my May C/D issue. I drove the 6i briefly, and I liked it. Unfortunately, there was nowhere nearby to drive it in a sporting manner.
#17845 of 20241 Re: first fill up [cski]
Mar 31, 2013 (5:55 pm)
I do not know if it was mentioned here but new 2013 Ford Fusion still uses 6 speed transmission 6F35 at least with 2.0T. This transmission was nothing but nightmare since it was first used in 2010 - 2012 Fusion and Escape. As recently as end of 2012 none of reported problems were fixed. I am not sure if they fixed issues in 2013 but I have doubts. It may be design issue which Ford dealerships cannot fix. According the reports issues start right away in brand new cars. CR confirms it by giving 2010 Fusion solid black dot in major and minor transmission problems area.
#17846 of 20241 Re: Fusion 6F35 transmission issues
Apr 01, 2013 (4:43 am)
My neighbor has a 2010 w/the 6speed auto and it was replaced at 52k. Something about a solenoid. Took three weeks for the dealer to get it fixed.
Is there a TSB or recall?
#17849 of 20241 Re: first fill up [savetheland]
Apr 01, 2013 (5:57 am)
When we were shopping for a new car in 2011 we completely wrote off the Fusion due to the extensively reported transmission issues.
Ford's reluctance to correct the fault kept me away from the brand to this day.