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You are in the Sedans
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#17805 of 20239 Automobile magazine
Mar 22, 2013 (5:50 am)
In a test they call "Midsize Madness" they evaluate the Fusion, Accord, Sonata, Optima, Mazda6, Altima, Passat, and Camry.
They had high words of praise for the Fusion and Mazda6, but in a close contest chose the Accord by a slight margin. It was very close, and they emphasize that all of these cars are good and have their virtues.
"As much as anything, our choice has been determined by the way that the Honda Accord drives. You wouldn't necessarily describe the Accord as a driver's car, yet it is remarkably easy and natural to drive in a way that anyone will notice.
It begins with the rigorously ergonomic approach that Honda takes to formatting the driving position of its cars. You notice the great visibility from the driver's seat, the thoughtful layout of the light-effort controls, and then the predictable responses of the steering, throttle, and brakes. The Accord is maneuverable in the big parking structure downtown, comfortable on the long freeway ride to work, and energetic enough to make every drive effortless. This is a car that helps almost everybody drive very well, and the result is not just a feeling of safety but also an experience of driving enjoyment....
From its introduction clear back in 1976, the Accord has combined European styling, American comfort, and Japanese reliability. It might be said that the best thing about the 2013 Accord is the way it embraces this formula with renewed enthusiasm...And the overall level of quality is high, even though the labor - not to mention 65 percent of the parts and pieces - come from North America, not Japan.
We enjoyed being in this car, and while its interior dimensions aren't much different from those of its competition, it feels especially open and spacious. The soft-touch detailing has added a worthwhile dimension of luxury, and even the cloth seat upholstery seems particularly nice. And just as important, we found it easy to climb in and out, while the ride was quieter than we remember from past Accords as well as more supple and composed on the road...This has become a very nice car, an automobile that projects a premium image and seems like something to which we should aspire. And, ironically enough, there are not so many cars that deliver these things at this price point...."
#17807 of 20239 Re: The Midsize Trifecta [akirby]
Mar 22, 2013 (8:38 am)
I always thought that would make a great Ford commercial - GM owner trying to contact OnStar while Ford owner punches in keycode and drives away.
Split screen - both people get to their car and realize they're locked the keys inside. One starts to call GM (timer starts running). The other gets into their Ford.
Second part of the ad - the first person is just getting their car unlocked via OnStar while the other person returns with the kids from school.
#17808 of 20239 Re: The Midsize Trifecta [plekto]
Mar 22, 2013 (9:01 am)
It is kind of surprising Ford doesn't market the "keypad" access.
Like I mentioned earlier, Onstar certainly has nice features, but if you lock your phone and keys in your car (which I've done), it won't do you much good until you find another phone.
What I like about the keypad is it's a fairly low tech simple way to gain access to your vehicle. No phone, no keys, no problem;) Just enter your code and you're in.
#17809 of 20239 Re: Automobile magazine [benjaminh]
Mar 22, 2013 (9:20 am)
this is a good point. as much as everyone here likes to argue for their favorites, this class is extremely competitive, and there are a ton of fine choices. You can pretty much buy any of the 6-to players and get a fine automobile.
so, like in this test, try them all and buy whatever floats your boat the highest.
one thing that bothers me is they seem to always leave the Legacy out of the tests. I drove one last year when we were looking at outbacks (to try out the new powertrain), and it is a really, really nice car. if I was looking in this class, it would certainly be on my short list.
#17810 of 20239 Re: Recent Research to replace an Acura TL [benjaminh]
Mar 22, 2013 (9:28 am)
I haven't driven the Accord much since it's for my "main squeeze". She likes and appreciates a spirited car(hence the V6) so, I haven't tested the ACC.
We both prefer the "European" road handling although I have some misgivings about the OEM Michelin tires.
It's a very solid, quiet, spunky handler.
Honda/Acura simply makes a product that appeals to my driving taste with most of what I want in a car, at a reasonable price.
MB is the only brand that competes BUT, at a 20% markup.
This is my personal view and I'm simply an enthusiast.
Keep in mind, I still love my 8 yo V70 5cylinder 6MT, bought my first "brick" in 1972!
#17811 of 20239 Re: The Midsize Trifecta [dieselone]
Mar 22, 2013 (12:01 pm)
My 94 SHO had the keypad.... it's comforting for leaving the key in it for a spouse/family member to pic up later too.
There is no ignition key hole for my keys to be left in though in the first place. I just walk up to my car and it automatically unlocks as long as the key-fob is in my pocket. Then I hop in and hit start. The Optima is the lowest priced car with keyless entry w/ start button. Since the fob never leaves my pocket, then I never leave it in the car. (I am just sayin')
It also has a trunk pressure pad so I can open the trunk w/o a key or digging for the fob. It just opens and I dump whatever in it and go.
#17812 of 20239 Re: Recent Research to replace an Acura TL [stage4survivor]
Mar 22, 2013 (12:10 pm)
Oh yeah...those early Volvo turbos...like the 1984 240 sedan with the rims is like an O.G. sport sedan. They were cool looking bricks!!. Then in the mid 90's the 850 R wagon was awesome. Then the V-70 of which you are acquainted.
Right on man! On your Honda allegiance, the 6 speed auto V6 Accord sedan is a rocket. I like the quality and cool looking dash with the dual screens. If it was my money, today; that is what would be in my garage.
#17813 of 20239 Re: The Midsize Trifecta [cski]
Mar 22, 2013 (1:14 pm)
The Optima is the lowest priced car with keyless entry w/ start button
No, it is not. The Mazda3 i Touring has it and costs thousands less than the Optima. The Optima doesn't get it until you hit the EX model. The Nissan Altima has it standard in the base Altima which costs thousands less than the Optima EX. There are probably others.
Mar 22, 2013 (1:28 pm)
New Mazda6 has it as well for just over 20k in the sport model. 25.5k for the Accord so a little more than the Kia.