Last post on Dec 10, 2013 at 5:02 PM
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#17730 of 20239 Loving the Accord....
Mar 12, 2013 (4:27 am)
I like new Honda Accord as well. if it was available at the end of 2011, I would be driving one right now. It just has this X Factor of quality. I like the crisp lines of the exterior, I like the dash assembly with the 2 screens I like the IP gauge cluster, which is classic for the Accord 1 I can't figure out, is why Honda dozens have a competitive 100,000 mile powertrain warranty. That would have sealed the deal. I bet Honda would steal quite a few sales from Sonatas and Optima's if that was available.
#17731 of 20239 Loving the Accord....
Mar 12, 2013 (4:35 am)
I like new Honda Accord as well. if it was available at the end of 2011, I would be driving one right now. It just has this X Factor of quality. I like the crisp lines of the exterior, I like the dash assembly with the 2 screens; I like the IP gauge cluster, with it's classic slender needles. What I can't figure out is why Honda doesn't have a competitive 100,000 mile powertrain warranty. That would have sealed the deal. I bet Honda would steal quite a few sales from Sonatas and Optima's if that was available. Perhaps next time will be the right time and place to purchase one.
#17732 of 20239 Re: Loving the Accord.... [cski]
Mar 12, 2013 (5:30 am)
Hyundai started that 100k warranty about 10 years ago as move to get themselves back in the game. As you know, in the 80s and 90s the quality of Hyundai/Kia was far from a Honda of the era. But starting about the year 2000 Hyundai/Kia made a major push toward quality, and were getting closer to Honda and Toyota, but the question was how to let the US customer know about it—and so they went for the 100k warranty on the engine.
Honda and Toyota moved to a degree, by moving their engine warranties up to 5/60 from 3/36.
But have you heard of "Million Mile Joe"? He's a nut who somehow drove a million miles in an early 1990s Accord on the original engine. Most engines don't last nearly that long, not even Hondas. But Hondas engines are generally admired as the best in the biz, and so I really don't think you need to worry about your Honda engine much.
But genuine HondaCare warranties are available at a reasonable price if you shop around.
I'm probably going to get my new 2013 Accord EXL navi 4 cylinder today, and just for peace of mind I'm going to add a HondaCare 0 deductible 8 year 100k mile bumper to bumper for $960.
Hyundai and Kia have made huge strides. And in terms of quality I think they are about the same as a Honda today.
For that extra bit of engineering excellence, however, the little bit extra for a Honda is worth it to me. You just can expect to pay a little more to get the best.
My 2 cents.
There are obviously lots of great cars in the midsize segment—Fusion, Optima, Mazda6, etc. Each one has their good points, and we all get to enjoy our favorite.+++
#17733 of 20239 Toyota Camry SE v Mazda6 GT v Honda Accord Sport
Mar 12, 2013 (6:23 am)
Motor Trend did a comparison between the Camry, Mazda6 and Accord. Interesting results...
#17734 of 20239 Re: Loving the Accord.... [benjaminh]
Mar 12, 2013 (6:48 am)
I lurk mostly in this forum. I know you are a big Honda fan & an Accord guy as well. I personally don't believe it's necessary to purchase an extended warranty for a Honda, especially a 4cyl Accord. I know the CVT is new tech & would surely be expensive to replace, but I truly believe in Honda as a company. 2 of the 3 cars in my garage are Hondas (2001 Prelude & 2011 Pilot). 100K miles is NOTHING. Good luck with your purchase!
#17735 of 20239 Re: Loving the Accord.... [benjaminh]
Mar 12, 2013 (8:12 am)
Yeah man.....million mile Joe was in one of my my latest issue of C/D! He bought it in 1996 from an old couple with 74k on the ODO, then racked up the miles.
Something like 78 oil changes, 13 sets of brake pads, tons-o-tires, and a total of 2,000,2050 miles. The engine has never been opened. Thats a good thing, because if someone opened it, I think the contents would liquefy. LOL.
Honda surprised him with an impromptu parade as he was accepting the key's to a 2012 from Ms Maine. It's good to be Joe!
So, look guys; All we have to do is keep piling the miles on and maybe we get a free car!!! (subject to a $19,900 doc-prep). LMAO
#17736 of 20239 Re: Toyota Camry SE v Mazda6 GT v Honda Accord Sport [aviboy97]
Mar 12, 2013 (8:36 am)
Yeah, they really like the Mazda6, which is a great car. I like Mazdas, and have owned a few myself over the years. But overall, I feel like Hondas are better cars.
And look at the list prices. They were comparing a c. $32k Mazda6 with a c. $25k Honda Accord.
#17737 of 20239 Re: Loving the Accord.... [nyccarguy]
Mar 12, 2013 (8:30 am)
You might be right!
I got an 8 year extended warranty on my 2002 Accord and never used it during the 8 full years I owned the car.
I got an 8 year Hondacare on my 2008, and I haven't used that one either. They did fix some things (squeaky brake pads replaced free, etc.) under the regular warranty, but I have yet to use the extended for anything.
But for the 2013 there is so much new technology that I want the peace of mind of the extended warranty.
To list a few things, they have the new EarthDreams (silly name!) engine with direct injection, and then the all-new CVT, and then the cameras, touch screen, new HD navi, etc.
You may be right, nycarguy, that I'm wasting my money, but for $960 it's worth it to me not to worry about my new Honda for the next 8 years....+++
#17738 of 20239 Re: Loving the Accord.... [benjaminh]
Mar 12, 2013 (10:33 am)
I think other people have a hard time understanding how you could agree with both that Honda has made better cars, and seems higher quality, and still think you need an 8 year warranty that will never be used.
The Honda probably generally costs a bit more than the Kia or Hyundai equivalent, but the idea is that you never have to use the warranty, whereas with the Korean makes you might be having a lot of warranty visits in that 100K mile warranty.
You pay a bit extra for the Honda quality, but you make it up in having no hassles or problems or costs in keeping it running (maintenance excluded of course).
To me, it would make more sense to buy a lesser brand and then get the extra 8 year warranty for peace of mind.
#17739 of 20239 Re: Loving the Accord.... [andres3]
Mar 12, 2013 (10:54 am)
You pay a bit extra for the Honda quality, but you make it up in having no hassles or problems or costs in keeping it running (maintenance excluded of course)......
I think honda does build quality cars, but they have their issues too. Ask a honda owner who was part of one of the class action suits over transmissions or the class action suit over premature brake wear or the current class action suit on the excess oil consumption on the 6 cyl VCM. With first time direct inject and the first use of cvt in the accord 4 cyl (first use of 6 speed auto in 6 cyl accord) I think investing in the extra warranty may be a very wise move.