Last post on Dec 03, 2013 at 4:29 PM
You are in the Sedans
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#17725 of 20187 Midsize cars have upgraded
Mar 11, 2013 (6:49 am)
I looked at every midsized sedan before I settled on the 2013 Accord EXL V6. What surprised me the most about the new models from Ford, Nissan, Toyota, Hyundai, Kia, and even GM were the interiors. Materials have been vastly upgraded from past generations. For example, the driver's seat in the 2013 Nissan Altima SL was the most comfortable seat I have ever experienced in any car. My Honda has a great seat also. I love the perforated, soft leather, and upgraded materials throughout the cabin. the Ford Fusion interior also compared well to many luxury sedans. I was quite impressed with the interiors of most of the mainstream family sedans.
#17726 of 20187 Re: Midsize cars have upgraded [marcus216]
Mar 11, 2013 (8:32 am)
Congrats on your purchase!
Yeah, I agree about the improved interiors.
My 2008 Accord EXL is a very nice car, but when I test drove a 2013 Accord EXL it seemed very close to an Acura or Lexus to me....
Mar 11, 2013 (9:07 am)
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#17728 of 20187 Re: Mid-size quality and value.... [benjaminh]
Mar 11, 2013 (9:07 am)
Was using Toyota as an example. There has to be a robust platform so the "various companies" do not have to reinvent the wheel...
Correction on the ES..... It is based on the new Avalon for 2013 All data in my statement was based on major automotive magazines.
The point was about platform sharing. It gets a better vehicle to the consumer that otherwise would not be possible unless the platform is shared with more profitable models. Also, selling 300,000 Camryoptmaltmafusionassat's helps a lot!!
#17729 of 20187 Honda got its MOJO Back
Mar 11, 2013 (6:42 pm)
It's good to see Honda got its Mojo back with the '13 Accord, and apparently, the '13 Civic as well???
#17730 of 20187 Loving the Accord....
Mar 12, 2013 (4:27 am)
I like new Honda Accord as well. if it was available at the end of 2011, I would be driving one right now. It just has this X Factor of quality. I like the crisp lines of the exterior, I like the dash assembly with the 2 screens I like the IP gauge cluster, which is classic for the Accord 1 I can't figure out, is why Honda dozens have a competitive 100,000 mile powertrain warranty. That would have sealed the deal. I bet Honda would steal quite a few sales from Sonatas and Optima's if that was available.
#17731 of 20187 Loving the Accord....
Mar 12, 2013 (4:35 am)
I like new Honda Accord as well. if it was available at the end of 2011, I would be driving one right now. It just has this X Factor of quality. I like the crisp lines of the exterior, I like the dash assembly with the 2 screens; I like the IP gauge cluster, with it's classic slender needles. What I can't figure out is why Honda doesn't have a competitive 100,000 mile powertrain warranty. That would have sealed the deal. I bet Honda would steal quite a few sales from Sonatas and Optima's if that was available. Perhaps next time will be the right time and place to purchase one.
#17732 of 20187 Re: Loving the Accord.... [cski]
Mar 12, 2013 (5:30 am)
Hyundai started that 100k warranty about 10 years ago as move to get themselves back in the game. As you know, in the 80s and 90s the quality of Hyundai/Kia was far from a Honda of the era. But starting about the year 2000 Hyundai/Kia made a major push toward quality, and were getting closer to Honda and Toyota, but the question was how to let the US customer know about it—and so they went for the 100k warranty on the engine.
Honda and Toyota moved to a degree, by moving their engine warranties up to 5/60 from 3/36.
But have you heard of "Million Mile Joe"? He's a nut who somehow drove a million miles in an early 1990s Accord on the original engine. Most engines don't last nearly that long, not even Hondas. But Hondas engines are generally admired as the best in the biz, and so I really don't think you need to worry about your Honda engine much.
But genuine HondaCare warranties are available at a reasonable price if you shop around.
I'm probably going to get my new 2013 Accord EXL navi 4 cylinder today, and just for peace of mind I'm going to add a HondaCare 0 deductible 8 year 100k mile bumper to bumper for $960.
Hyundai and Kia have made huge strides. And in terms of quality I think they are about the same as a Honda today.
For that extra bit of engineering excellence, however, the little bit extra for a Honda is worth it to me. You just can expect to pay a little more to get the best.
My 2 cents.
There are obviously lots of great cars in the midsize segment—Fusion, Optima, Mazda6, etc. Each one has their good points, and we all get to enjoy our favorite.+++
#17733 of 20187 Toyota Camry SE v Mazda6 GT v Honda Accord Sport
Mar 12, 2013 (6:23 am)
Motor Trend did a comparison between the Camry, Mazda6 and Accord. Interesting results...
#17734 of 20187 Re: Loving the Accord.... [benjaminh]
Mar 12, 2013 (6:48 am)
I lurk mostly in this forum. I know you are a big Honda fan & an Accord guy as well. I personally don't believe it's necessary to purchase an extended warranty for a Honda, especially a 4cyl Accord. I know the CVT is new tech & would surely be expensive to replace, but I truly believe in Honda as a company. 2 of the 3 cars in my garage are Hondas (2001 Prelude & 2011 Pilot). 100K miles is NOTHING. Good luck with your purchase!