Last post on Dec 10, 2013 at 5:02 PM
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#17695 of 20239 Re: Audio isue in the 2013 Accord with Hondalink [marcus216]
Mar 07, 2013 (6:29 am)
One of the complaints on the new Accords. Search the web, Honda should have a fix for this.
#17696 of 20239 Why isn't the Buick Verano here?
Mar 07, 2013 (10:39 am)
I actually find the new Verano to be a very attractive car. I would not consider it a large sedan, nor would I consider it a luxury sedan (starts at $23,080 with the "standard group" 2.4).
$24,375 with the "convenience" group. (comparable to EX trim on Honda and Kia)
$26,755 with the leather group
These prices and specs fall right in line with all of our cars.
The engine specs totally meet all the mid size sedan specs: 180 HP 2.4, 250 HP Turbo 4.
6 speed automatic or, astonishingly for a Buick, a 6 speed manual is available with the Turbo.
I found the specs on Buick's site: http://www.buick.com/verano-luxury-sedan/features-specs/trims-equipment-groups.h- tml
#17697 of 20239 Re: This just in - Honda superiority confirmed again [dieselone]
Mar 07, 2013 (12:14 pm)
Funny, my experience with Honda runs 180 degrees counter to this stellar "care" by Honda USA
I'll explain, we bought a 2006 Civic new in Oct 2005, it was my first Honda of any type. I routinely checked on TSB's for the then new Civic just to keep an eye on things. In the summer of 2006 a TSB showed up with the picture of a Civic block (front and rear) and outlined in RED were the paths two potential cracks in the block one in front and one in back. I began to see reports soon after of owners having cracking blocks which immediately dumped the coolant destroying the engines. These people were complaining that these cracks were showing up without any negative input from them i.e. running low on coolant/oil etc. Honda was denying claims left and right fixing them with new short blocks and charging the customer whatever the freight would bear ...the more they complained the more Honda would pony-up. Some paid the entire thing (around $5000), some paid different amounts depending on the level of customer complaint or Honda loyalty meaning they owned several Honda's previously. Honda actually required receipts of ALL Honda services done only at a Honda service center before even considering compensation. Thing is, this was a metalurgy or engineering issue and it continued from the 2006 through 2008 model years. No, it never happened to me BUT in January of 2011 I (and all Current Civic owners) received an "extended engine warranty" covering the cracked block problem. This after "only" 6 years of ownership. Honda finally fessed up to having a problem. Countless owners paid varying amounts to have this fixed over the years leading up to this. So, the idea of quickly addressing this particular problem on Honda's part is a joke. Kicking and screaming maybe!!
#17698 of 20239 Re: Why isn't the Buick Verano here? [cski]
Mar 07, 2013 (12:37 pm)
Verano is a compact built on the Cruze frame. The Regal is the midsize offering from Buick. IMO Buick is in no mans land...not quite luxury, not quite mainstream. The Malibu is the car that fits in this group but if want to talk Buick, it's the Regal. The Lacrosse is full size.
#17699 of 20239 Re: K&N filter info...dyno power discrepancy/Kia [cski]
Mar 07, 2013 (1:50 pm)
You may still want to step up to lux for your next car, but the 2013 Honda Accord seems to not only meet its power rating but may be underrated according to this dyno test of the 4 cylinder by temple of vtec. They take the car all the way to the electronically limited max speed of 127mph (without going anywhere, of course):
#17700 of 20239 Installed new K&N filter...found a "bonus" filter!
Mar 07, 2013 (2:51 pm)
As some of you saw, I was warned that the K & N filter may not completely protect my engine completely, or at least as well as the stock paper filter. It turns out that my Optima has a secondary hepa fine particulate filter just before air enters the engine. So, no need to worry about it. It also has a cabin filter on a secondary tube for the A/C. Can't wait to try it out tomorrow on my high speed commute.
#17701 of 20239 Re: Installed new K&N filter...found a "bonus" filter! [cski]
Mar 07, 2013 (3:05 pm)
Wouldn't a secondary filter completely negate any added airflow from the K&N?
#17702 of 20239 Re: Installed new K&N filter...found a "bonus" filter! [akirby]
Mar 07, 2013 (3:24 pm)
It seemed like it was pretty thin. I am not an engineer though. I do like the improved intake growl, and I liked the K&N 's quality construction. It is 1/4 the thickness of the bulky, stock paper filter. Like I said though, it's only $40, including shipping from Amazon. I like it, and in the end that is all that matters.
Mar 07, 2013 (3:34 pm)
The Verano is positioned as a mid - size sedan alternative. It's drivetrains, weight, pricing, and equipment are aimed squarely at the mid size market. GM calls it a Compact Luxury Sedan. If it was a true compact, then it would have the Cruze drivetrains.
#17704 of 20239 Re: This just in - Honda superiority confirmed again [xrunner2]
Mar 07, 2013 (4:08 pm)
CR's ratings were for the 80 cars they tested in the last 12 months. The 2013 Ford Fusion Hybrid finished #2, so some domestics are catching up.