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#17689 of 18209 Audio isue in the 2013 Accord with Hondalink by marcus216

Mar 06, 2013 (8:55 am)

Just curious if anyone out there with a 2013 Honda accord with Hondalink has had audio issues. I have had my Honda Accord EXL V6 only a few days and I had an instance of a buzzing/static sound coming from the audio on any source. Even when I turned the audio off, I could hear the buzzing/static sound. When I turned the car off and re-started, the issue was resolved, as if restarting the engine allows the audio system to reset itself. I am wondering if this is due to the active noise cancellation system? I called m dealer and talked with the service manager and he told me that they have not seen this issue. I found this video on YouTube from a guy who has experienced the same thing. Interesting.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV0Wq23Y9_M

#17690 of 18209 Re: K&N [akirby] by cski

Mar 06, 2013 (10:10 am)

Replying to: akirby (Mar 06, 2013 7:55 am)
I bought it for the sound mostly. I did some more research. The way the K&N works is by channeling the air through multiple layers of cotton fiber. It is kind of like a folded sock with the hole at the front where the air comes in. Also, it is not dusty where I live (NOVA). My only concern would be spring pollen.
 
It's not loud enough that it sounds like a boy-racer Civic Del-Sol with primer ground effects,neon lights underneath, formula one sized wing, stuffed with sub-woofers, and a trash can sized exhaust pipe. LOL.
 
See funny commercial here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXhZqW-4vV8

#17691 of 18209 Re: This just in - Honda superiority confirmed again [dieselone] by plekto

Mar 06, 2013 (11:56 am)

Replying to: dieselone (Mar 06, 2013 5:23 am)
Modern engines of course, can get away with the lower levels. But many cars are still using engines designed on 1970s or 80s designs. Also, lower revving engines can pretty much run on anything that looks like it might be oil
 
1200ppm seems to be the lower limit for those engines, but you don't know how your older engine will run on the newer 800ppm oils until you see it blow up (or not).
 
"High mileage" oil is regular 800ppm oil that is allowed to be at the older 1200ppm standard by the EPA. Any sane person, IMO, would want to run with higher levels of anti-wear additives in their engine and ignore whether the cat will live an extra few years. My car has 120K on it and it's already worn out enough without playing Roulette with the oil.
 
Note - about synthetic. Synthetics are superior to conventional oils in every way except for one:
- They have a specific issue in that while they fail at vastly greater intervals than conventional oil, when they do fail, minus the anti-wear additives, they provide almost no protection. That is, the base stock that they use for conventional oil provides some innate protection. You can even clean it and recycle it for another use. You cannot do this with synthetic. Once it's used, it's done with.
 
So as long as you change your synthetic oil often enough, that is, before it fails, you're good to go. But since every synthetic is formulated differently and every manufacturer's interval is different, well, it's kind of a big single issue in my mind. Can you go 10K? 15k? 20k? Who knows?
 
IMO, the smart compromise is a synthetic blend as if the synthetic part fails for whatever reason, there's still something to fall back on. Maybe not a lot, but probably just enough to keep your bottom bearings from eating themselves. And, it's a lot cheaper as well.

#17692 of 18209 - by dudleyr

Mar 06, 2013 (1:13 pm)

"...with synthetic. Once it's used, it's done with."
 
Never heard this before. I wonder why they let you recycle synthetic in the same vat with regular oil if they are a ticking bomb about to fail.

#17693 of 18209 Re: Audio isue in the 2013 Accord with Hondalink [marcus216] by cski

Mar 06, 2013 (1:26 pm)

Replying to: marcus216 (Mar 06, 2013 8:55 am)
Do you have an i-pod or phone....or any other device plugged in to the aux input or the USB port? Said device could have it's audio all the way up (so it sounds good through the car stereo and has all of the desired volume (basically it would be more like the gain being up all the way). With the volume all the way up and your stereo off, said device still has enough output to make the static/buzzing sound through the car's speakers. Check it out.

#17694 of 18209 Re: - [dudleyr] by plekto

Mar 06, 2013 (7:40 pm)

Replying to: dudleyr (Mar 06, 2013 1:13 pm)
There's "recycling" oil in terms of safely removing it from the environment and there's oil made from recycled oils. As far as I know, the shops are supposed to collect them separately but since almost nobody does, they mix the resulting (mostly conventional with some synthetic) mixture with some new synthetic and market it as "recycled".
 
Valvoline mixes 50% processed but used oil with 50% new oil in their formulation. Others may vary.
 
(from their site/advert)
"When you buy a new bottle of motor oil, what you're actually getting is a liquid that contains 85 percent motor oil and 15 percent additives. When that motor oil runs through your engine for a few thousand miles and gets "used," all that really happens is that additives get contaminated and useless, while the 85 percent motor oil is still there, still okay. This 85 percent is called base oil, and it can be reclaimed and turned into new motor oil."
 
They can get away with this trick because in most cars, they can actually go 5-6K or more between changes now, and since a lot of people still change conventional oils at 3-4K, there's a decent enough safety margin.

#17695 of 18209 Re: Audio isue in the 2013 Accord with Hondalink [marcus216] by tundradweller1

Mar 07, 2013 (7:29 am)

Replying to: marcus216 (Mar 06, 2013 8:55 am)
One of the complaints on the new Accords. Search the web, Honda should have a fix for this.

#17696 of 18209 Why isn't the Buick Verano here? by cski

Mar 07, 2013 (11:39 am)

I actually find the new Verano to be a very attractive car. I would not consider it a large sedan, nor would I consider it a luxury sedan (starts at $23,080 with the "standard group" 2.4).
 
$24,375 with the "convenience" group. (comparable to EX trim on Honda and Kia)
 
$26,755 with the leather group
 
$29,000. Leather/convenience/Turbo
 
These prices and specs fall right in line with all of our cars.
 
The engine specs totally meet all the mid size sedan specs: 180 HP 2.4, 250 HP Turbo 4.
 
6 speed automatic or, astonishingly for a Buick, a 6 speed manual is available with the Turbo.
 
I found the specs on Buick's site: http://www.buick.com/verano-luxury-sedan/features-specs/trims-equipment-groups.h- tml

#17697 of 18209 Re: This just in - Honda superiority confirmed again [dieselone] by targettuning

Mar 07, 2013 (1:14 pm)

Replying to: dieselone (Mar 05, 2013 7:01 pm)
Funny, my experience with Honda runs 180 degrees counter to this stellar "care" by Honda USA
 I'll explain, we bought a 2006 Civic new in Oct 2005, it was my first Honda of any type. I routinely checked on TSB's for the then new Civic just to keep an eye on things. In the summer of 2006 a TSB showed up with the picture of a Civic block (front and rear) and outlined in RED were the paths two potential cracks in the block one in front and one in back. I began to see reports soon after of owners having cracking blocks which immediately dumped the coolant destroying the engines. These people were complaining that these cracks were showing up without any negative input from them i.e. running low on coolant/oil etc. Honda was denying claims left and right fixing them with new short blocks and charging the customer whatever the freight would bear ...the more they complained the more Honda would pony-up. Some paid the entire thing (around $5000), some paid different amounts depending on the level of customer complaint or Honda loyalty meaning they owned several Honda's previously. Honda actually required receipts of ALL Honda services done only at a Honda service center before even considering compensation. Thing is, this was a metalurgy or engineering issue and it continued from the 2006 through 2008 model years. No, it never happened to me BUT in January of 2011 I (and all Current Civic owners) received an "extended engine warranty" covering the cracked block problem. This after "only" 6 years of ownership. Honda finally fessed up to having a problem. Countless owners paid varying amounts to have this fixed over the years leading up to this. So, the idea of quickly addressing this particular problem on Honda's part is a joke. Kicking and screaming maybe!!

#17698 of 18209 Re: Why isn't the Buick Verano here? [cski] by m6user

Mar 07, 2013 (1:37 pm)

Replying to: cski (Mar 07, 2013 11:39 am)
Verano is a compact built on the Cruze frame. The Regal is the midsize offering from Buick. IMO Buick is in no mans land...not quite luxury, not quite mainstream. The Malibu is the car that fits in this group but if want to talk Buick, it's the Regal. The Lacrosse is full size.

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