Last post on May 22, 2013 at 3:13 PM
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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#17624 of 18205 Re: 2014 Mazda6 vs. 2013 Honda Accord [igozoomzoom]
Feb 25, 2013 (1:31 pm)
I'm normally a manual guy, but this time needed to go auto for the spouse and teen in our house. I liked the Accord CVT better than I thought I would. If you're not going to shift for yourself, why celebrate the little jerks? The Accord CVT inserts a little pseudo "shift feel" via programming, and is apparently better than Nissan's CVT for feel and sound.
I get to keep our 2008 Accord EXL 5MT, which becomes more "my" car, and so I don't mind having a CVT in the family.
#17625 of 18205 Re: 2014 Mazda6 vs. 2013 Honda Accord [igozoomzoom]
Feb 25, 2013 (1:39 pm)
Why do you say the Accord will outrun all three? The Mazda 6i Touring Auto has been timed at 6.5 for the 0-60 and 15.5 for the quarter. The Accord was timed 6.5 and 15.7. Doesn't appear to me that the Accord outruns it. It may ourtrun the Fusion 1.6T and the Optima EX though.
With that being said, most people IMO are not buying these cars becasue they are 1 or 2 tenths of a second quicker. Now if you were talking a couple of seconds that would be a deal breaker as that would affect the driving experience somewhat. That's really the only reason I even glance at 0-60 times for cars like this is to make sure they are in the ballpark with their competitors and they usually are. Very little seperates them when it comes to speed. Now if I were comparing a Mustang GT vs. a Camaro SS or something like that I would be very inerested in the 0-60 times etc.
Feb 25, 2013 (1:52 pm)
The Mazda 6 manual seats do have height adjustment. Aftermarket seat heaters can be added for about $500 as we did with my wifes Sonata SE Turbo.
For my car (manual cloth) and truck (leather power king seats) I installed sheepskin covers for less than half the cost of heated seats. They are warm in winter and cooler in summer. I even have sheepskin pads for the Motorcycle seats. They add serious comfort to any seat. No baahhaaaad sheep jokes please....
#17628 of 18205 Re: 2014 Mazda6 vs. 2013 Honda Accord [benjaminh]
Feb 25, 2013 (4:06 pm)
I am not buying anything. Just gonna check them out.
#17629 of 18205 Re: 2014 Mazda6 vs. 2013 Honda Accord [igozoomzoom]
Feb 25, 2013 (4:18 pm)
I wouldn't mind checking out the whatever is selling the best, and the 2.5 would be the right engine to compare the Maz6, Accord, and Optima EX $25k models.
On the Mazda I want to drive the 2.5i Touring of course. I need to see how much black plastic is in it compared to mine. I like the Instrument panel on the Mazda in the pictures. I really want to see if I like the way it looks in person too. Not sold on the grill.
As I have said before a family member works for Mazda so I will just go over there and ask for one for the day.
#17630 of 18205 I just bought a Fusion with 2.0
Feb 26, 2013 (7:34 pm)
I think it's going to be a great car. Before that I test drove the AWD version of the same car, and it felt sluggish. They probably take a long time to break in.
I had a 07 Fusion AWD until a couple of years ago and it was the same way.
#17631 of 18205 Re: I just bought a Fusion with 2.0 [explorerx4]
Feb 26, 2013 (9:55 pm)
You will absolutely love it, once the engine is broken in, and you can start really driving it. I just got mine past the 1000 mile mark, and now that I can fully experience what it can do, I just love it even more and am finding more excuses to drive it more aggressively. Its usual quiet purring becomes a very satisfying growl when you gun it and kick the turbo boost in! I was just driving it like grandpa going to church, just waiting to get it past the green light for going balls out, and finding out what it's capable of, and now that I know, it's a total blast!
#17632 of 18205 2014 Mazda 6 Skyactiv 2.5
Feb 27, 2013 (12:31 pm)
I went over to Mazda. Drove it, loved it. It was fully loaded and the fit/finish was excellent. I was very lucky to get any seat time at all, and what I did get was in Tyson's Corner gridlock. I hate driving there.
I got her up to 50 mph, and did a few full throttle stoplight to stoplight acceleration runs, and there is good power down low. I did notice that there was a lot of black plastic, but it was of high quality.
The sticker was $28k, for the Touring i model with leather and heated seats. Don't count on negotiating a deal until dealers are fully stocked. The demo I drove was not for sale....it was there just to garner pre-orders. So, don't run over to Mazda with a wad of cash till April.
What everyone was really excited about was the new Skyactiv D - 2.2 liter Diesel, which will have 175 HP and 310 lb ft torque. Now, what is really cool is that it has a 14.1 compression ratio (super low for a compression burn engine), so it will rev more like a gas engine.
The bottom line is that the new diesel will finally enable Mazda to wage war with Americas only successful line of Diesel compact and mid-size sedan products.... Volkswagen TDI .
#17633 of 18205 '13 Fusion Frustrations...
Feb 27, 2013 (3:11 pm)
Well I was recently contacted by a Ford customer service representative who firmly explained to me through two phone conversations that my understanding of a 16.5 gallon tank holding 16.5 gallons is wrong and that filling to 12 gallons when the fuel light comes on is what it was designed for and what I should expect. She explained that there is 1 gallon reserved for vapor (huh?) and 2 gallons of reserve. She was so incredulous that I would question this issue that she didn't bother to notice that 12+2+1 still comes up 1.5 gallons short of the published capacity but what the heck do I know? Perhaps Ford should start using the term "usable capacity" in their specifications. In the next model year, they are going to have a back seat with the capacity to fit four people but you will only be able to actually fit two. The upside is you'll actually be able to prove or disprove this before you leave the dealership.
While this may seem trivial to some, if you drive long distances it becomes a nuisance - especially in the northern plain states where there is a lot of empty space. I've lost close to 1/3 of travel range for a tank of gas because of this compared to what I previously drove (and still considered buying another of).
And to those who use a relatively current iPhone (4, 4S - can't speak to 5 but it runs the same iOS) and are thinking about using Sync - forget it. My $50 Plantronics M50 Bluetooth earpiece connects to the iPhone in seconds and is rock solid with answering and ending calls. Pairing the iPhone with Sync creates a lot of lag that interferes with most everything else Sync does. Not having the iPhone paired with Sync allows the Sync system to operate extremely well but you of course lose one of the things you maybe purchased the car for - hands-free/device-free Bluetooth. Why they can't provide the equivalent functionality I have in the tiny Bluetooth earpiece in the very impressive Sync system is beyond me.